Thursday, July 17, 2008

Olympics


I'm getting excited. Why, you ask? Simple: it's time for the Olympics. I'm a junky. What's strange about this addiction is the fact that I generally don't like to watch sports on TV.

I have a lot of positive memories when it comes to the Games.
In 1984, the Summer Olympics were in my own backyard. And, both of my boys were born during the Summer Olympics (P2 on July 20 and P4 on Aug. 2). So...with both, I have very happy memories of sitting up late and snuggling them while watching the less popular sports at three in the morning.

Beyond that, though, I find the Olympics to give a peak as to what's best about humanity. The athletes compete against other athletes without race, religion, or politics getting in the way. You don't see the participants as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, etc.,. Instead, you see gymnasts, swimmers, runners, etc.,. I like that. I'm not saying that the Olympics are without controversy: I know they're not! China was not my pick for the 2008 games and I have to wonder what the IOC was thinking. But, I won't watch the games to give China kudos. I watch them to cheer on my favorite athletes and, I confess, the American team members. And, while nothing is hokier than an Opening or Closing Ceremony, you'll find me glued to the television during both.

This Olympic obsession has been around since the 1980 Moscow games. I was in Kindergarten for the 1980 Games and remember going to a McDonalds and getting a glass with an Olympic runner. I remember hearing that America was going to boycott because of the games being in Russia. That was probably my first lesson in international politics. But, even at that young age, I knew that the decision to boycott would take away the moment that some people had trained years for and I was sad. Perhaps that's why I'm excited for those about to have their moment?

Anyway...in other news, I got an e-mail that I have to post here. Any and all snark, or ass-whoopin', is welcome and encouraged. In fact,... maybe I'll award medals? *wink*
"Y don't u talk about any thing worth any talk. U are stupid
& no of us who glorify God care bout u or your buddys being fanatics against
the truth god gave u. Y do u care about what we says in the
papers. U like the enemy of the catholic faith in Minnesoeta. He is
so good a teacher u say that is he is not good enuff for a real
university. I bet you are in foolish dawkin. The grate powers of
atheism will fall like i see. u god haters should give it up. are u
going to tell god u did not want him. u will pray for mercy when u
get reviewed by gods measure. his ruler is unbending for u
people. U can tell me there no god when u sell the blog in as many
copys of the BIBLE. we know what we do with witches in gods order. U
owe me a sorry for the lies u tell about christians. i dont care tho. f***
u."


ROFLOL. I'd respond if I thought he/she could handle the big words...

34 comments:

Perpetual Beginner said...

Wow, way to bring the stupid!

Let's see...

Regarding PZ's school: State schools generally are big schools, and many of them are excellent. (UCLA comes leaping to mind)But even the worst of them could do wonders for your spelling and grammar.

Regarding Bible sales: I never realized the truth of things was determined by how many people believed them. I guess the world actually was round back in the day, hmmm?

Regarding Christianity at large: Loving thy neighbor - you're doing it wrong. Christ was prepared to die for you, but you're not willing to be polite or even run a spell-check?

And just as a personal favor - could you kindly stop pretending you represent Christians at large? I've pretty much stopped telling people I'm even a theist, let alone a Christian, because I'd be too ashamed to be associated with the hate-filled, bigoted, uneducated purposefully ignorant loons who keep deluding themselves that they're following Christ. We're supposed to be a light unto the world, not a torch for storming the castle or lighting the pyre.

Terra said...

A big fat Amen to what PB said.

I'm constantly amazed at the spelling/grammar of some of these commenters. Amazed that it can be so bad. And yet, this person managed to get certain key words or phrases correct. Like, "glorify God"...is there a page where they cut and paste from? Because the rest of it is damn near unreadable.

holliwud517 said...

Mwah haha....
"U owe me a sorry...."


*tear* That's good stuff. LMAO!

Logic Lad said...

I never fail to be amused by people who insist on using, and i will be generous here, Text speak when they have a full keyboard to bang away at. It shows a real lack of patience/education/respect.

To perpetual beginner, you picked up the love thy neighbour thing, I am not sure if you know but this actually refers only to people in your own tribe, not just to people who happen to live around you. Foreigners are completly fair game according to the 'caring' religion.
I mean this is the same religion that said it was fine to take slaves as long as they are from a tribe other than your own.

MatthewT said...

I find it odd that on quite a few atheist blogs I read, when someone receives an ignorant email like that it almost always mentions "big words"(sometimes "wurds"). This is crazy since I'm 16 and able to fully comprehend everything that blogger is posting.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Perhaps it's because this person seems unable to use them? I don't normally pick on someone's grammar or spelling. After all, I get mail from people whose first language isn't English. However, when someone tries to bitch me out using shortened words, I don't feel an obligation to devote time to writing a lengthy response.

Paul said...

[Silentsanta, NZ]

"Y don't u talk about any thing worth any talk."

things such as: living ethically, bringing up children, asking searching questions, learning to live amongst people who believe incompatible things, finding a way through life's tragedies and triumphs?
Yeah, not much worthwhile there. Perhaps, instead, she should spend her time taking a course such as "making insipid remarks", or "how to fail at grammar"?

"U are stupid & no of us who glorify God care bout u or your buddys being fanatics against
the truth god gave u."


Ahh, the 'truth god gave us'. I remember that remarkable day, when he first appeared in front of me, answered my questions, showed where my reasoning was incorrect, made a compelling case for why one religion was correct and all others were false, and then showed me exactly why racism, bigotry, subjugating women, and commanding slaughter and genocide are all ethically defensible.
Oh, wait on- that didn't happen. We must have missed out! Oh- but actually, it didn't happen to you either. Why don't you take your 'truth' that your god 'gave' you and show it to us, where we may see it and become enlightened. Show us why your arbitrary historical text is so irrefutably more profound and truthful than the Qu'ran, the Bharavad Gita, or my local Maori legend. It's your job to convince us- your daft book even says as much. And until you make a convincing case, we're going to take the sensible approach of believing all of these things to be utter bullshit.

"Y do u care about what we says in the papers."

Because when people sincerely misunderstand problems,
make demonstrably false claims, and/or blatantly lie, it is the duty of responsible individuals to speak out.

"U like the enemy of the catholic faith in Minnesoeta. He is
so good a teacher u say that is he is not good enuff for a real
university. I bet you are in foolish dawkin."


I doubt that even you know what you were trying to say here. If you're not interested in communicating, why write at all?

"The grate powers of
atheism will fall like i see. u god haters should give it up."


We will leave you to your smug predictions, and proceed to make the world a better, more informed, more compassionate and more tolerant place.

"are u going to tell god u did not want him."

No, we are unlikely to have a conversation with a nonexistent being. However, in the vanishingly small possibility that he did exist, we would demand to know why s/he didn't give us some goddamned evidence if he wanted us to believe something.

"u will pray for mercy when u
get reviewed by gods measure. his ruler is unbending for u
people."

I might be praying for mercy right now, but that would be because your text-speak hurts my eyes. Divine punishment is less concerning to me, due to the fundamental problems caused by the administrator being wholly fictitious.

"U can tell me there no god when u sell the blog in as many
copys of the BIBLE."


That there, that's the closest thing to an argument you've ever made. Let's think about that for a second- if truth is decided by book sales, Harry Potter suddenly looks pretty compelling too!
Your triumphant claim is based on a widely acknowledged flawed argument.

"we know what we do with witches in gods order."

That seems like a threat, you infantile creep. Based on your spelling and grammar, I'm inclined to believe you're about 10 years old*, so you might not be aware, but threatening people is actually a criminal offense.
Nevermind that witches and magic are precisely as non-existent as your deity- what does your own bible say about your neighbour? Did Jesus burn any 'witches'?
Do you even have the slightest idea what the difference is between a witch and an atheist?

"U owe me a sorry for the lies u tell about christians. i dont care tho."

Care to point these 'lies' out, and debate the issues like a civilized person?

"f*** u."

I guess that's a 'no'.


* no offence to the possums, who are exceptional for their age after all.

skepticdad said...

I just have one question for the e-mailer...

Y Kant Tori Read?

Joy said...

That made me laugh so hard that coffee just spewed out of my mouth and onto the computer screen.

Wow. That's a pretty intense brand of stoopud. ;)

Kazim said...

PMomma, I think u gotz a LOLChristian intrestid in ur blawg.

I can haz smackdown plz?

cockingasnook said...

Matthew, is it just the atheist bloggers who object to stupid? Is it OK to be rude and dumb on religious blogs?

Enjoy the Olympics! :)

Nance

Perpetual Beginner said...

Logic Lad - absolutely true. Love thy neighbor was very much originally about your actual physical neighbor. However by the time Christ answered the question "Who is my neighbor?", he was definitely intending a broader meaning, since he answered with the parable of the Good Samaritan.

One of the continual challenges is to keep myself thinking as broadly as possible about who my neighbor is.

Berlzebub said...

*Cracks knuckles and reads first two sentences* Oh... This one isn't worth an ass-whoopin'. *smacks the side of my head to make my eyes uncross* Just in case they read this, I'll type real slow.

/Snark
Y don't u talk about any thing worth any talk.
Oh, I get it. This is a misunderstanding. P-Momma is writing for literate people with good reading comprehension. You probably read her stuff by mistake. Sorry 'bout that.

Oh, and anything is one word.
U are stupid & no of us who glorify God care bout u or your buddys being fanatics against the truth god gave u.
You don't care but you take the time to write this unintelligible (that means incompreh... ummm, we can't understand a damn thing you say) email to her? I have a new phrase for you. Cognitive dissonance (copy/paste it to Google).

Oh, and you should check out ad hominem.
Y do u care about what we says in the papers.
For the same reason you do. Duh!
U like the enemy of the catholic faith in Minnesoeta.
Here's another misunderstanding. PZ Myers is an opponent of stupidity. It just so happens that Catholicism falls into that, though.
He is so good a teacher u say that is he is not good enuff for a real university.
UMMM is a real university, and PZ is a published scientist. Besides, how could you possibly tell if a place was a real university.

Oh, wait. A good litmus test would be to apply there. If they don't let you in, they're probably a good university.
I bet you are in foolish dawkin.
Actually, I'm at work. Now, what was the wager?
The grate powers of atheism will fall like i see.
Then why does the Catholic church (among many others) feel so threatened by them? The RC church doesn't support reality, and more people are beginning to think for themselves and see that.

Oh, and it's spelled "great".
u god haters should give it up.
*Sigh* You really need to find out more about atheism. I actually gave up believing in the existance of your deity of choice a while ago. That includes loving, hating, or fearing.
are u going to tell god u did not want him.
Nope. If I were to find he existed, I'd ask him where he was for the thirty years I searched for him.
u will pray for mercy when u
get reviewed by gods measure. his ruler is unbending for u people.

Is that ruler metric or imperial?
U can tell me there no god when u sell the blog in as many copys of the BIBLE.
So there's a Harry Potter and Hogwarts, too? WAY COOL!!

Also, see argumentum ad populum. Reality does not go by democratic vote.
we know what we do with witches in gods order.
Yeah, you burn them at the stake. However, I'm not a witch. I'm a heathen. Get your terms straight.
U owe me a sorry for the lies u tell about christians.
Name one.

Oh, and you owe your English teacher an apology. Either that, or she owes you one for letting you pass the class.
i dont care tho.
Again, if you don't care, why did you email this to her.
f*** u.
Geeze, you have trouble spelling everything, don't ya. I'll give you a hint. It ends with a 'ck'.

I'll also give you some free advice. Never join a debating team. It'd be like seeing Mike Tyson boxing against Andy Dick.

Now, for a pop quiz:
Explain the difference between "your" and "you're".

Bonus question:
Explain the difference between "its" and "it's".


@ P-Momma: If I should win a medal, please send it to the commenter. I have a feeling that, unless they're good at sports, it may be the only prize they ever recieve.

Enshoku said...

That text made my eyes bleed, and it made a baby kitten cry as well. I love how PZ is THE enemy of the catholic faith... on second thought I hate it. That title should be mine, as well as field general of the godless army of satan. Our atheistic grate powers will soon fall, I was unaware that we had grating powers, and if we do then why do any of us own cheese graters? Also, for fun try plugging in different words into the post:

"Y don't u talk about any thing worth any talk. U are stupid
& no of us who glorify Allah care bout u or your buddys being fanatics against
the truth Zeus gave u. Y do u care about what we says in the
papers. U like the enemy of the Wiccan faith in Minnesoeta. He is
so good a teacher u say that is he is not good enuff for a real
university. I bet you are in foolish dawkin. The grate powers of
atheism will fall like i see. u Vishnu haters should give it up. are u
going to tell god u did not want him. u will pray for mercy when u
get reviewed by Flying Spaghetti Monsters measure. his ruler is unbending for u
people. U can tell me there no Allah when u sell the blog in as many
copys of the KORAN. we know what we do with witches in gods order. U
owe me a sorry for the lies u tell about pagans. i dont care tho. I love
u.
Peace and love, amen."

Yes, I had to add that last part because I myself hate it when people end a non-sensical rant with the peace and love thing...

aimee said...

Wow, that was a doozy. Thanks, I needed a good laugh today.

@Berlzebub: " A good litmus test would be to apply there. If they don't let you in, they're probably a good university."
^5

And I don't think this can even qualify as text writing. This was just ass poor grammar.

That person should get an award for the most incomprehensible email EVER.

reVAMPed said...

I'm shocked they could even spell the word "atheism".

Stupid is as stupid does. Must be a brainwashed teen, I hope. Because if it's an adult, and a women, please, please Zeus, don't let them breed.

Kevin Greene said...

This is your brain.

[i]Sets down an egg.[/i]

This is your brain on religion.

[i]Smashes egg with bottom of frying pan. Keeps whacking until arm gets tired.[/i]

Any questions?

Perpetual Beginner said...

Oh, right. I forgot about the "grate powers". Pmomma, why didn't you tell us you had grate powers? I really needed you the day I made a fruit salad for 140 - dozens of lemons to zest!

Berlzebub said...

@ Aimee:

Shouldn't that be "evah"?

aimee said...

@Berlzebub, *hanging head in shame*, I tried to spell bad on purpose I swear. I just couldn't hit send. Please forgive me.

Let me try again... This person needs an award for the most incomprehensible email EVAH.

How wuz that? Did I do a grate
(gr8?)job or whut?

Milo Johnson said...

Actually, Pma, I'll bet the commenter has LOTS of medals and trophies. Everybody gets one in the Special Olympics...

Atheist in a mini van. said...

"I have grate powers and you all will respect my authoritay!" - in my best Cartman voice.

And, yes, Russell...the lolchristian thought does sound about right? I can haz the grate powers? PZ can haz the crucifix.

What's really funny about all of this is that the guys is still e-mailing me. I wish he'd just leave it here (HINT! DUDE! I know you're reading because you are responding to the posts.). Some of the funnier one-liners I've received today:

1. U warship U. - I've been called fat before, but never labeled a war ship.
2. Do u know 1 christian of doing for there wants!
One? Hell...try thousands.
3. U know satan in schools of no religion education. Catholic enemy 1 PZ teaches 2 make more seculary Americans."
I was doing fine until you through in numbers. I have a hard time believing you are an authority on education. Satanic or otherwise.
And, my personal favorite...
U would luv if god left this land when christians follow him what will u do save u from rapping sodomites with no laws. U will pray for us returned.
Rapping sodomites??? Seriously? Like, a Puffy Party with lube? Or, will the sodomites just rap at the door until you tell them to go away? *rap rap rap*

Cindy said...

My first memory of the Olympics was the 1972 Munich games when I was 8. I remember the Israeli athletes being shot, and I cried while asking my father how something like this could happen.

Berlzebub said...

@ Aimee:
Much better, and the "gr8" was an excellent touch. Although, I'm by no means an expert in texting speak.

@ LOLXian:
Rapping Sodomites... Is that a new Xian hip-hop group?

Now, concerning you emailing P-Momma...

Instead of emailing her, why don't you comment on here? We're the ones responding to your initial rant!!

I'm actually figuring on two possibilities.

1. You're too much of a coward to put your verbal feces up against us, and just want to harass P-Momma.

2. You're too stupid to figure out how to leave a comment on the blog.

So far, we have quite a bit of supporting evidence for both.

Perpetual Beginner said...

@Whoever you are.

You can't hate people for their own good. So please can the painfully ungrammatical holier than thou attitude.

Why not give humility a chance?

phewd said...

How is Babby Formed?

Psychodiva said...

that hurt to much to read :( please don't do that again - I need my brain

Corbie said...

"Y (sic) don't u (sic) talk about any thing (sic) worth any (sic) talk. (sic) U (sic) are stupid
& (sic) no (sic) of us who glorify God care bout (sic) u (sic) or your buddys (sic) being fanatics against
the truth god gave u. (sic) Y (sic) do u (sic) care about what we says (sic) in the
papers. (sic) U (sic) like (sic) the enemy of the catholic (sic) faith in Minnesoeta. (sic) He is
so good a teacher (sic) u (sic) say that is he is not good enuff (sic) for a real
university. I bet you are in foolish dawkin. (sic) The grate (sic) powers of
atheism will fall like I (sic) see. (sic) u (sic) god haters should give it up. are (sic) u (sic)
going to tell god (sic) u (sic) did not want him. (sic) u (sic) will pray for mercy when u (sic)
get reviewed by gods (sic) measure. his (sic) ruler (sic) is unbending for u (sic)
people. U (sic) can tell me there (sic) no god (sic) when u (sic) sell the blog in (sic) as many
copys (sic) of the BIBLE. (sic) we (sic) know what we do with witches in gods (sic) order. U (sic)
owe me a sorry (sic) for the lies u (sic) tell about christians. i dont care tho. (sic) f*** (sic)
u.(sic)"

Now, be nice; obviously this person is sic(k). This person is a poster child for Roy Zimmerman's "Don't Make Fun of the Crippled Boy."

I am pleased, however, to find that God's ruler is unbending. Measuring things with a floppy ruler can be simply maddening.

the chaplain said...

Oh, PMomma! I'm about to pee my pants. Are you sure you didn't fabricate that email just for laughs?

Atheist in a mini van. said...

I'm good, but not that good. LOL

Flux said...

heh... know what this makes me think of?

"I personally believe, that US Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and Iraq everywhere like such as and I really think that they should our education over here in the US should help the should help South Africa and should help Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build our future."

this verbal labotomy has been brought to you by the letters w, t, f.

Joe said...

I'm a member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation and in their monthly newspaper on occasion they print some of the hate mail verbatium. The cream of the crop has the horrible spelling, grammar and punctuation as PM showed us with her hate mail. What is it about the Bible and literacy?

CrypticLife said...

That's a Poe. There's no way a theist makes that many spelling mistakes and then spells "atheist" correctly.

In fact, I'll even go one further: it's a Poe that's computer-generated. It's just too over-the-top to be done by hand.

Milo Johnson said...

I'm betting that the correct spelling of "atheist" was a typo...