Sunday, March 30, 2008

It's the NyQuil talking.

Ugh! I hate the flu. Right now I'm trying to decide if I'm hot or freezing and I think the answer may be: "Both!"

Does anyone else find it mind-blowing that, essentially: if you get a flu, it's basically the same flu that the very, very first person who caught this flu had? I mean, think about it... it's likely that I our family has the same virus that found happy hunting grounds in some chicken farmer in China. I know there's some slight variations in the virus as it mutates ever so slightly from host-to-host, but... it's the same virus. It's the same virus that, likely, has infected celebrities, politicians, authors, and little kids in Russia. Name anyone - it's probably the same virus. (I'll beat Vamp to the punch- *cough*seed*cough*)

So...if you're a theist, then do you think that God created the virus that leaves you with coughing, sneezing, bone crushing body pain, fever, congestion, sneezing, wheezing, and insane fatigue? Just curious.

34 comments:

Sean the Blogonaut F.C.D. said...

That'd be right, atheists and drugs. I hope this doesn't mean that you won't be able to give us your insights on the God Delusion.

April said...

Sorry you're sick. Colds, flu, cockroaches and mites.

Poodles said...

Sick sucks. That being said, god only does the good things. He doesn't do the bad things, everyone knows the atheists do the bad things.

Feel better. :)

madnessandreams said...

Viruses are quite amazing mind-blowing things. This year my virology professor got to teach us all about why influenza is so interesting while struggling through the flu that he got from his kids, and he was still excited about it. I found it particularly interesting to learn that flu virus spreads much better in a cold dry environment than in a warm humid one. Of course, one could guess from the fact that flu is seasonal, but it's actually been proven! (They're still working on the "why" though) Virology is definitely my best course this semester.

But anyhow, I'm sorry you have the flu, and I hope you feel better soon!

Karen said...

Clearly, the flu was created to teach its sufferers compassion. I was also created to teach some of us patience when our spouses come down with it. :-)

badger3k said...

Obviously, God didn't create the viruses. He merely set everything up perfectly, and then the nasty Eve and Adam screwed up and the Fall happened, when dinosaurs turned carnivorous and viruses spontaneously appeared, without any input from God, who set everything up and whose hands are on everything that happens in the world, except evil-bed-thingees - them, he ain't gonna touch with a 13.7-billion light year pole.

Yep, and of course, as was said, God obviously made you sick to teach you a lesson, even though He wouldn't have anything to do with viruses, since he is completely innocent and blameless, except when he is.

reVAMPed said...

Hey don't bogart that joint PM...(I know she doesn't do that, and I know she knows I use to)...youz trippin' on da Nyquil alright.

Hubby just said, wow man, I bet it's the same virus Hitler had, man. (evil)

We took the kids to Camelot Park for Halo's late birthday party. Well shit, gues what? Tthey've both (Juju too) come down with the sniffles and Halo has a sore throat too. Even after me being *OBSESSIVE* on the washing of the hands. Oh well. But Juju rocked the GO carts. Looks like Danica Patrick may have some competition. Watch Out Nascar.

Hope you feel better. And the whole world is really in your fingernail, man.

The Music Won't Stop said...

I was honestly told that all disease was a result of sin, and the reason we get sick is because we open ourselves up to Stan. Of course, a heavy dose of drugs seemed to ward off those sinful diseases much more effectively than prayer (which never worked once in my case).

Hope you feel better soon! My whole family is chugging NyQuil right now (except the little ones, who are chugging Motrin).

The Music Won't Stop said...

Stan....

Satan.

Eclectic said...

Cue Eric Idle:
All things Dull and Ugly

All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.

Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid—
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

Amen.

savedinchrist said...

Possummomma or what you call yourself. You are living a lie as all atheists live a lie by denying what they know is true. You once believed by your own admission. A child like belief that God commands you to embrace in Him and that is what you've denied. You mention being ill almost every post and yet take no comfort in prayers that could ask for God to heal you. What do you expect if you sit in a house all day feeling sorry for yourself? Get out and live in the wonderful world God has blessed for you. He still loves you. I don't believe most of what you write. I can't see how anyone could be allergic to the sun until it gets so bad you need people to gather money for window film but we see that you go outside to take pictures in the sun. I think that going out for pictures proves that you are not as sick as you say you are. Has anyone met you or are you an internet scammer? Has any blogger reading here met her or confirmed that she isn't a scam? I agree with John R.. You chased him out all of you except I think he was right. Her life is to perfect with pictures that should say everything. I have known thousands of families in my life but I have never seen a family where the teenager plays with a toddler and is all happy. Kites - bubbles - painting pumkins - basketball - slushie traditions - it all looks like a planned show that you are putting on. Could it be a show? I think so. Because if this is all for real (unlikely) Possummomma and Possumdaddy need to write a book on how to raise kids and it will outsell all of the parenting books in the world. Children can be easily blinded to the sins of the father or mother in this case. I guess if you believe in nothing then your kids are ignorant to the sins they might have done. Or maybe they know that they don't have to answer to God so they are happy because they can sin. You can defend her but you have to admit that this family can't be one hunderd % perfect in every way. This blog is a commercial for atheist life styles like a late night commercial selling knives that don't cut steel in real life. The knife is a scam which you don't get until you try using it in a pinch. The people who are in love with this family are going to see this family as role ideals and when you stand in front of God you will only have a dull knife to show Him. Then what will you say to Him - they looked nice even though they denied you God. Who knows this family that doesn't rely on pictures and stories from here? Is there anyone? I think ReVamp is a sock puppet blog kept by Possummomma to mascerade as someone who knows her for a long time. Think about it and it makes sense. I could say that you should pray about admiring this family - oh I forgot, you can't pray. You have no God but yourself and each other and you worship Darwin and each other like false saviors.

Maggie Rosethorn said...

savedinchrist - if you would take the honest time to READ what anyone posts (and Pmomma's FAQ on the front page), instead of just mouthing off your platitudes, you would KNOW Possummomma has lupus. One of the symptoms of lupus is photosensitivity, (light sensitivity) which makes her very prone to sunburn. Again, if you would read, she posts that when she goes out she covers herself up almost completely to protect herself. As for her being an internet scammer, maybe you should read what an honest questioning person did (I forget his name from Berlzebub's blog)...he actually reached out and found that her illness was real.

Prayer doesn't work. They have done double-blinded studies of the effect of prayer on hospitalized persons. No difference in results between those prayed for and those who weren't....except that the people who were TOLD they were being prayed for did WORSE than any other group. So, no, we don't bother to pray.

Why shouldn't pmomma's family enjoy being together? I know lots of families that play together in many ways.

Pmomma - get well soon. The flu sucks (did P1 get it too?). Can't wait for bookgroup tomorrow. I'm enjoying the God Delusion a lot more than I thought I would. Cyberhugs.

Baal's Bum said...

PM Sorry to hear you have the flu my eldest had it last week and my wife has it now. Why is it that whenever as you are not feeling your best some scum sucking bottom feeder comes along and tries to give you a hard time ?
What makes me laugh is they all(if there is more than one) just keep on spouting the same old tired rhetoric.
Perhaps we should all be good crossuckers for jeezus like ted hagard and co. Heyyyy pass the meth.
Tell me stupidforcrutch or whatever your name is, do christians get discount with rent boys.

redd said...

P'Momma,
Sorry you've got the flu running through your family. Get lots of rest, drink plenty of fluids, and I hope you get well soon.

Savedinchrist,

"Denying what you know is true" doesn't make one a liar; it makes one a hypocrite. Since we don't know that your god is true, we are simply exercising good judgment...rather than believing any old story that comes along, we wait for sound evidence. I believe your bible considers that good form.

Now, what is the proper adjective or descriptive term for a person who visits another person's blog, and calls them a liar? Who insults the host/ess where one is a guest?

How about a name for someone who denies the claims of happiness when the proof is presented to him, for no other reason than because such happiness has thus far eluded him?

And, while we're at it, let's figure out what moniker to hang on a person who makes judgments about others and pronounces their guilt and punishment without even ''reading their hearts".



Perhaps "boorish ass"....

or

perhaps "savedinchrist"?

Xena said...

savedinchrist - the possum family isn't real simply because they like each other? I'm thinking that means none of the families that have blogs are real. I want to know what blogs you go to where the people post pictures and stories of the kids hating on each other.

Poodles said...

Savedinchrist--
Piss off!!!

Sorry Pmomma you can delete that, it's probably the roids talking anyway.

reVAMPed said...

Geez why does this sound like ... ugh, I'm not even gonna say.

I've KNOWN Possummomma since BEFORE our oldest daughter's could walk. She's also about 15 years younger than I am, too.

Thanks for thinking we're the same person, because PM is way more educated than I am. She's as avid reader, while I'm more of a visualist. I'm the "Pinky" to her "Brain".

Look up lupus. She has clothes to go outside in, albeit for short periods of time, to take pics.

She's on Chemo right now too, so, way to hit a person when their down. But it doesn't matter, because she's a wayyyy better person than someone like you.

Seven Crows said...

@savedinchrist - Paragraphs man, paragraphs please. Nothing says "crazy" like ignoring paragraphs.

Country Wife said...

PMom, sorry you have the ickies. I hope you feel better soon.

@ savedinchrist:
Wow...trying to read that garbled garbage was like...trying to read garbled garbage. Are you even older than 12? If not, it's past your bedtime, and if so, grow up and learn to use a paragraph, why don't ya?!

Seriously, I feel bad for you. You think Pmom is fake because her kids are happy? Maybe your children (or you, if you are a child) would be happy, too, if not saddled with religious guilt on a daily/hourly basis.

Here's a tip: when parents love and encourage their children, said children respond with smiles, which could, oddly enough, mean that they are happy! Conversely, when children are taught hatred, guilt, bigotry, and fear, you don't see an awful lot of smiling.

Oh, and if you think prayer works wonders, maybe you haven't heard the story of the little girl that died of diabetes while her parents prayed?

Argh..now I have to go clean something. Then maybe a nice rant on my own blog to cleanse the spirit. :)

savedinchrist said...

I have struck a nerve. Good! I knew the atheist sheep would flock to her defense as typical for the group. Who else would prop you lunatic people up when you deny Christ.

savedinchrist - if you would take the honest time to READ what anyone posts (and Pmomma's FAQ on the front page), instead of just mouthing off your platitudes, you would KNOW Possummomma has lupus.
I read the blog. You won't believe in Jesus and God even though there's a Bible that has been thousands of years old but you believe in Possummomma with a one years internet blog? How can I take you seriously.


Prayer doesn't work. They have done double-blinded studies of the effect of prayer on hospitalized persons.
Prayer does work if you saw a study otherwise then you were lead to read it by Satan. I had a numonia before a big trip which I prayed for God to cure so I could go to the trip and the night before the flight I was cured even though I did not take a single medication. My sister was hit by a car and had a spinal cord sever that should have left her paralyzed and she was until our church did a prayer chain for her. She got out of bed and walked just a day after the prayer circle met. Scientists don't give God credit for anything as the new movie that Pharyngula is dogging would show if you were open mindedly honest enough to view it.

Redd made this quote Since we don't know that your god is true, we are simply exercising good judgment...rather than believing any old story that comes along, we wait for sound evidence.
You are exercising Satan's wishing because you can't believe in God. It is bad judgement.

Speaking to revamp I've KNOWN Possummomma since BEFORE our oldest daughter's could walk. She's also about 15 years younger than I am, too.
This doesn't prove she or you are real. It is suspicsious that your daughter's are the same age.

Talking to country wife You think Pmom is fake because her kids are happy? Maybe your children (or you, if you are a child) would be happy, too, if not saddled with religious guilt on a daily/hourly basis.

She's fake because it is ALWAYS GOOD STUFF. You buy her perfect routing. My children are not all happy because they know God puts challenges in their way to help grow their spirit with challenge. I am skepticle of any mom who is a best friend to her children. That is not what parents are.
Don't attack my spiritually healthy family because you don't like criticizing your idol.
Why is possummomma quiet? Cant she talk for her self.

Dave said...

Pmomma has the flu you moron!

Her kids appear happy because they are happy. Sure there may be the occasional tantrum from P3 and P4. I even imagine that P1 and P2 can get stubborn at times. In general, however, they are happy kids. Not only is someone providing them with a home, food, clothes, education and the like - they have love and acceptance. It is truly that easy, Saved. I admit that it's uncommon for siblings to be as close as the B kids are. Yet, they are. Why are you hellbound to shit on what they have?

Baal's Bum said...

PM.
Would I be right in thinking I recognise the misspelt ravings from your pathetic spineless excuse for a jealous troll. I say jealous as I think (s)he is spouting off at your family and friends because they have none outside of their sad pathetic existence save their imaginary one.
Perhaps if we all sprinkled some fairy dust and said we believe in fairies/jeezus it will all become true and we can fly off to neverland to see michael jackson.
@music wontstop
Lets stick with Stan it sounds so much more cuddly than Satan.

Maggie Rosethorn said...

savedinchrist - like many of the people here, I used to believe in god. I don't any longer. It's that simple. I don't believe in the bible. It's a nice book of tales, but I might as well believe in the Iliad. Gods in that book, too, and many people believed in them for years. (And, it's also still in print, just like the bible.)

Gee...I didn't realize that satan, another personI don't believe in, can lead me to reading scientific studies. I thought it was work related reading. My bad.

My kids are happy children, too. Whether they decide to believe in god or not will be their choice.

Go be unhappy and fear life. I'll be out on my motorcycle enjoying life, love, and happiness.

Hey, y'all. We'll comment at book group this evening. Looking forward to the fun and conversations! Bye.

Seven Crows said...

I think we have discovered something here. I couldn't understand why P-momma gets so many loonies. But SavedinChris(t) has let the cat out of the bag: they are jealous. They are unhappy, their children are unhappy. They think a 12 year old could never play happily with her little brother as their children don't get along. And so they want to convert P-momma and family so that they will be unhappy as well. They don't want to spread god's word - they want to spread unhappiness.

I think we should point such people to Aesop's fable The fox and the Grapes. You can find it online easily. And by the way - Aesop wrote his fables around 550 B.C. which should be plenty old enough for you to take it seriously.

reVAMPed said...

Why do you come onto blogs such as this, SavedInChrist? What's your purpose here, really? I'm totally serious.

I certainly don't go to Christian blogs and tell them they're all stupid, because God doesn't exist. If it gives you comfort, keep it. You may need it. But lay off around here. We don't need religion/god.

My life is awesome without a deity.

Religion is something that's been made up YEARS ago so people can deal with death. Put on spin on heaven for us too while you're at it.

I had my first daughter when I was almost 36. PM had P1 when she was 20-ish, we lived in the same apt complex at the time. I even stood up at ther wedding, but I don't know why the frick I'm bothering to explain this to you. It's call comaraderie. We had something in common, our lovely little girls. Our age difference didn't matter, it was about our kids and watching them watch each other grow.

My daughter is now in Junior High and has a 4.0 GPA. Suck on that. All without a single prayer. Wow, how did that happen. She made it happen. And the love we give her, the patience and acceptance and guidance. Us, not some invisible sky puppet.

Give it up. Move on. Being anonymous as "savedinchrist" is suspicsious on your end. It should be "blindedbychrist". You're not real. You don't exist.

Saurian200 said...

Everyone,

A lot of people have been asking what motivates people like savedinchrist, well, I have the answer. You see, I have a shocking confession to make. It's actually all my fault.

For years, I have been going by the name Saurian200 to mask my true identity. I have hidden for a long time but now it's time to tell the truth. When you read my tale of horror and madness, you'll understand everything.

Many years ago when the internet was still young I was recruited into a shadowy cabal of mad scientists after they had read an editorial I had published in an issue of Doomsday Devices For Fun and Profit entitled "How Come When Some People Try To Bring About The Apocalypse Through Prayer They're Good Christians But When I use a Death Ray I'm A Madman?".

After My recruitment, (which involved a black van, a large stick, and the back of my head) I was taken to the cabal's secret headquarters at a mining facility in Antarctica owned by the mysterious TOW Company.

I was assigned to work on a project using supercomputers and the internet to create a new religion that would worship the leaders of the cabal. That was my first clue that something sinister was going on.

My second clue was a secret memo I discovered that explained that TOW Inc. stood for Take Over World Inc..

My third clue came when I realized that my employee orientation had included a lengthy discussion of how the company was trying to take over the world. Suddenly, it all became clear. They were trying to take over the world!

I realized I had to escape. Thankfully this was shortly after Senior Cabal Member Al Gore had invented the internet so he had gotten around to creating global warming yet. As such, at the time, Antarctica extended well up into the Gulf of Mexico. Getting home then wasn't much of a problem.

I later learned through contacts I still had inside the cabal that the project I helped start had gotten out of control. The supercomputer at the heart of everything had begun trolling the internet trying to recruit people to the new religion.

Shortly after that, everyone at the secret base was killed during the annual company picnic when they were mauled by wild penguins. (Interestingly, this is where Al Gore got the idea to invent global warming in an attempt to get revenge on Antarctica.)

The supercomputer now alone continued its mission to impersonate people on the internet to recruit new members. That is why all online fundies seem so inhuman and insane. Because they are inhuman, they're computers with no understanding of humanity and no humans around to learn from. And, the loneliness has driven them insane.

Now that I have told my story I must disappear once again. Just remember, when you encounter a fundy don't get angry. Feel some pity for the poor computer with no understanding of humanity. The poor computer trapped in Antarctica all alone.

...

I don't actually have to say April Fools do I?

reVAMPed said...

Whew, so I was right...S-I-C is not real, just a supercomputer in Antartica. Thanks, I KNEW it.

Country Wife said...

Saurian200, thanks..now I have half chewed popcorn all over my monitor! ;)

savedinchrist, seriously, you need to buy a clue, or at least a dictionary. Try looking up "numonia"; it's not in there.

By the way, your examples of prayer at work are pretty sad. You had pneumonia (please note proper spelling) and were better overnight with no medication? This was a self-diagnosis? If so, then most likely you didn't suffer from pneumonia and the sky fairy didn't heal you.

I have struck a nerve. Good! I knew the atheist sheep would flock to her defense as typical for the group. Who else would prop you lunatic people up when you deny Christ.

What did you expect? You are on Pmom’s blog, and those of us posting here have something in common: Most of us are atheists, we come here to read what Pmom posts, and as far as I can see *looks around**nods* you are the only moron here.

She's fake because it is ALWAYS GOOD STUFF. You buy her perfect routing. My children are not all happy because they know God puts challenges in their way to help grow their spirit with challenge. I am skepticle of any mom who is a best friend to her children. That is not what parents are.
Don't attack my spiritually healthy family because you don't like criticizing your idol.


Oh, now I really feel bad for you. Not only are you an internet troll with imaginary family members, you have a poor idea of what parenthood is or should be. Sad, sad, sad.

Poodles said...

Saurian,
I wish they were all a big "super computer" then maybe it would use spell check and grammar check.

:)

Milo Johnson said...

PM, you have the most powerful troll magnet on the internet. Saved in crap, the reason we "believe" in Pmom is because we can talk to her, see her, and interact with her in the real world, which of course, is the only world that exists. The reason we don't "believe" in your cobbled-together book of myths and fairy tales is because it's a cobbled-together collection of myths and fairy tales with no foundation in reality. And the reason your kids aren't happy is that they have a delusional, self-loathing, sadistic, ignorant and dishonest creep for a parent. Hope this helps you find your way.

Psychodiva said...

savedinmuck- why you go round in circles all the time? why you go round in circles all the time? why you go round in circles all the time?

oh! I just realised- with the skill I just demonstrated I could be a troll for christ!!!!

why don't you piss off to you little old churchy wurchy where you can all huggy wuggy each other and make yourselves feel better?

Karen said...

Saurian200, I may be a day late, but you've made my day anyway.

PM, I'll unsay an unprayer for you possums. Meanwhile, get better!

Brigit said...

Ugh! I hope your whole family gets over the flu soon; my sister gave me flu as a christmas present.

Is there a cyber Orkin man? If you see one roach and then you see a troll, who knows what might be going on! ;p

The Singing Patient said...

wow. savedinchrist is a real piece of work. and i gotta say, while I don't understand atheism, I have had atheist friends, and they were far more interesting to talk to (and far less judgmental) than S-I-C (a perfect acronym for someone who can't spell).

Why do people l;ash out at others the way SIC does?
I can tell you. I have been there. i am a CHristian, and left the fundamentalist church I was in when they all but threw me out because I developed lupus and could not be healed by faith. they kept telling me things like I must have sin in my life and that's why I'm sick, or my faith was failing and that's why I wasn't healed. or i was doing god's work so the devil was attacking me. (uh, pick one they can't all be true).

And what about St Paul who suffered some sort of chronic illness (A "thorn in the side") and asked ot be healed but was not? does this mean he was not a "good enough" person?

the reason people act this way is simple: self-centered fear. they figure if they live their life "perfectly" (by always being at church and trying to recruit everyone else to be exactly like them) then nothing bad will happen to them. they can convince themselves that you have lupus because you're an atheist.

I am not an atheist and I and at least 1 million other americans have lupus. we have an autoimmune epidemic going on, which i believe is caused by pollution of our environment and crap being put in our food supply, much of which we dont' even know about.

i believe we can acheieve better health and wholeness through some form ofspiritual practice, whether it be meditating, yoga, gardening, journalling, as well as seeking out alterntive medicine. yes i do believe prayer can work. but if you are not a believer, there are other things that can work.

and thinking you're goign to win anyone over to your way of thinking by attacking them is just dumb.
"Christian" means "little Christ"
SIC, do you really think you are acting like Christ? what would jesus do?
would he only help those who already believed?
clearly not (read the gospels).
would he blame people for their illnesses? no.
would he give someone a meal and a blanket or just say "be ye warmed and filled" (also in the bible)
would he say to someone whose exposure to the sun makes them very ill (and this is real, I have lupus too) "you spent a minute in the sun taking a picutre, so you're a sham"
thinkin about it. where's the love that was showered on you, SIC, that was so generously poured out on you when Christ died on the cross, just as much for your sins as anyone else's?
and don't think you are without sin just because you believe. You are only forgiven, not perfect.