Tuesday, November 06, 2007

Welcome to Hell.

I hate this town. I really do. "Why?", you might ask...

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. — Trustees of the largest high school district in the country voted 4-1 Monday night to mandate displays bearing the nation's motto — "In God We Trust" — and other historical documents in over 2,300 district classrooms and offices.

The display of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights will be included in the posters approved by district trustees in Bakersfield, Calif. Monday night.

Kern County High School District trustee Chad Vegas initially proposed the measure as a way of promoting patriotism. But the idea sparked a contentious debate.

"I'm exteremely pleased the measure passed and was in fact expanded beyond what I had originally proposed," said Vegas.

In addition to placing the displays in over 2,300 classrooms, the posters will also be hung in district boardrooms, libraries, administrative offices and other rooms.

Board President Bob Hampton, a former teacher in the district, told The L.A. Times he would vote against the posters because they reflect a "spiritual agenda."

"The spiritual side of students belongs at home and at church, not in the educational system," Hampton said.

The classroom displays were first suggested by the non-profit group In God We Trust — America Inc., whose president, Jacquie Sullivan, is a Bakersfield councilwoman.

"I encouraged the trustees to put this on the agenda," she said. "It's very important. We need to promote patriotism and promote it in our schools. We can’t just assume that the younger generations are going to have that strong love for God and their country the way the older generations do."

Sullivan's organization has offered to provide funding for the project at Kern.

The councilwoman, who said she is a registered Republican and a Christian who attends a local Baptist church, told FOXNews.com that she has neither a religious nor political agenda in pushing for the measure.

"It’s not political. It’s not religious. It’s patriotism," Sullivan said. "American patriotism is love of God and love of country. It's pride in our country."

She believes schools are becoming more casual about teaching children to appreciate the ideals and values the United States was founded on, and she thinks it's important to "get back to the basics."

"Some schools have gotten so lax as to not be pledging allegiance to the flag everyday," Sullivan said. "We can easily get out of the habit of doing good things. (Patriotism) is something that continually needs to be taught."

And she believes that most Americans have faith in God, so having the national motto posted in school shouldn't offend anyone.

"We are faith-based people for the most part," Sullivan said. "Sometimes you have to go with the majority."

Other Bakersfield residents said there's nothing wrong with posting the nation's motto on classroom walls — even if it does mention God.

"Most kids in Bakersfield already have that seed planted, but for the others, it couldn't hurt," Malia Casarez told the Times. "My daughter is just 9 months old and I'm already scared of sending her to school, with all the things you hear about."

Trustee Bryan Batey said he could support displaying the posters in some classrooms, but not all. Two other members on the five-person board have said they do not support the proposal, The Bakersfield Californian reported.

The Kern district superintendent's office and the office of trustees did not immediately return calls from FOXNews.com seeking comment


Jack...we need to do a cast.

21 comments:

tina said...

"It’s not political. It’s not religious. It’s patriotism," Sullivan said. "American patriotism is love of God and love of country. It's pride in our country."

So, does that mean I don't have pride in my country?

"We are faith-based people for the most part," Sullivan said. "Sometimes you have to go with the majority."

What the fu#@! She doesn't have a mind of her own?? Sheep?

The councilwoman, who said she is a registered Republican and a Christian who attends a local Baptist church, told FOXNews.com that she has neither a religious nor political agenda in pushing for the measure.

Does she think we will actually believe that?

JP said...

Quite disturbing......

"The spiritual side of students belongs at home and at church, not in the educational system,"

Does that above quote not say it all??

SWE said...

There are good kids out there. We'll be seeing civil disobedience if this nonsense doesn't get stopped by some activist judge. All kinds of ways to modify the silly signs.

Listen up, kids! My vote is for changing the "o" in "God" into a representation of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We're all counting on you...

Bride of Shrek said...

Hey, is it just me or wouldn't the name Chad Vegas just about be the coolest porn star name around. Ah, the irony.

James said...

And here I was thinking the nation's motto was "E Pluribus Unum".

shaun said...

Ugh - so now we're equating theism with patriotism? Wonderful! I guess I ought to get ready to be dragged to the 'Merickan Gulags once they find out that I'm not a theist, therefor I'm a traitor....

Sean the Blogonaut F.C.D. said...

*Shakes Head*

Ben said...

Any chance of a little civil disobedience, going in there and tearing them down once they go up ?


@James, E Pluribus Unum has not been the National Motto since 1956. We live in a country where the National Motto explicitly excludes us from being considered part of 'we.'

Plonka said...

There's so much wrong with that it's hard to know where to start.

But..."Sometimes you have to go with the majority." Oh dear...

Perpetual Beginner said...

And she believes that most Americans have faith in God, so having the national motto posted in school shouldn't offend anyone.

Huh? Most Americans have faith in God, therefore no Americans will mind this? First most/= all, and second, some of us are quite capable of being offended on other people's behalf.

Besides as a theist, I really don't want to encourage people to go around mouthing empty praise to God. It strips it of all meaning.

AlisonM said...

More stuff on the walls that the kids will ignore. More tax dollars spent to make the school board members feel they've done something important, because so far they haven't done anything that measurably helps the kids.

While there are plenty of school board members across the country who genuinely care about the school system and the children in it, there are far too many who are in it for personal aggrandizement. Some have failed to become well-known in the past, and this is finally their opportunity to get mentioned in the newspaper. Yay, me! (These are often the ones who have weekly letters to the editor in the local paper, explaining or justifying their positions on school issues. . .) Some are just starting out, working up the local ladder so they can eventually become part of the political machine. ("First, the school board, then District 1 councilman, and then. . .THE WHITE HOUSE!!!") It would be nice if we just made them all spend their own money for this crap.

Gramomster said...

Heh heh... Just telling my husband about this. He said, "Bakersfield, California? I think that heat's gettin' to 'em."

So glad John is gone, PMomma. What a total prick. Yuck.

ang said...

In July 2006 Governor Taft (R) signed legislation requiring all Ohio school districts and community schools that receive donated copies of our National Motto, "In God We Trust", and the Ohio State Motto, "With God All Things Are Possible", to display these inspiring mottos in school classrooms, cafeterias, and auditoriums. The law took effect on Oct 12, 2006.
I've posted before about the Kiwanis clubs in Ohio purchasing the posters for schools. It's pretty disgusting. I'm glad my son is finshing his last year of public school and will graduate in the spring. I'm not sure how much longer either one of us can stand all the god talk at school.

Vamp DiVerL said...

And, it's gonna cost $12,000 for the posters here...can't we all think of better ways to spend that money on, ummmm, EDUCATION?

I still can't believe this is happening in our town.

Haha, the word filter code is "tbasco", looks like Tabasco...

HappyNat said...

ang,

I tought of the same thing our old Gov Taft did . . hwat a prick.

Hey P-momma at least one person voted against it. In my home town I'm sure it would have passed without any dissent.

Vamp DiVerL said...

What a mixed up town Bakersfield is --- the medicial marijuana dispensaries get to keep their licenses, but still can't dispense without being raided again and going to Federal Prison.

Maybe if I smoke more weed, I'll see God. and then put my trust in Him.

steelcobra said...

I see no problem with putting up the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights. That's just basic Civics to know those. But the rest is pointless and reaching for the sole purpose of extending the evangelist agenda into a place it doesn't belong: public schools.

But then again, none of them care that the only reason "god" is in any material our government produces is because of a failing senator who used slander, libel, and fear mongering to increase his public image.

ShadesOfGrey said...

Unfortunately, I don't think one can escape this sort of thing in pretty much any town in the U.S. :(

(an aside: I'm also another one who was out of town for a week who was shocked to come back to find the whole J...uh..."he who must not be named?"...fiasco. So glad Yahoo/Blogger was able to take care of him quickly. Hugs for P-Momma)

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Tina said...Does she think we will actually believe that?
Not only would no one buy that, but it's a "HELL NO!" She's the same person who's been bounding up-and-down the state getting the motto and the ten commandments placed in court rooms and government buildings.

JP said..."The spiritual side of students belongs at home and at church, not in the educational system,"

Does that above quote not say it all??

It does, it does.

Listen up, kids! My vote is for changing the "o" in "God" into a representation of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We're all counting on you...

Possummomma does not condone public vandalism...but, if some kid were to do the above, I wouldn't ground them. *cough* *cough*

Bride of Shrek said...
Hey, is it just me or wouldn't the name Chad Vegas just about be the coolest porn star name around.

What happens in... oh', sorry!

Plonka said...
There's so much wrong with that it's hard to know where to start.

But..."Sometimes you have to go with the majority." Oh dear...

That's what is so frustrating about this: the majority of people in Bakersfield thought this was a fucking terrible idea. Even some of this town's more conservative religious "authorities" stood against this proposal. When she's speaking of a majority, she's speaking about the four board members she managed to bulldoze into doing this. And, for the record...posting the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and any other documents WITH "In God We Trust" was a concession. Originally, she just wanted to hang the AFA sign.

AlisonM said...
More stuff on the walls that the kids will ignore. More tax dollars spent to make the school board members feel they've done something important, because so far they haven't done anything that measurably helps the kids.

THANK YOU!
We just wrote a check for $200+ so that our child could go on the "mandatory" trip to KEEP. Free public education my ass.

PiGuy said...

It's not my blog so I say "vandalize to your heart's content!"

"Sometimes you have to go with the majority."

It's amazing to me how the people trying so hard to promote "patriotism" don't have any idea what a republic is. If a majority is all it took, where would Civil Rights be right now?

Dipshit!

Joe said...

I read this in the Califorian while in Kern County recently and like Sean, I just shake my head. What a waste of money, time and effort.