Dr. Roger Olson is a professor of theology in George W. Truett Theological Seminary. He has the following to say about atheists.
I feel sorry for atheists. They are so much in the minority in American society and they are bound to feel some marginalization if not persecution. Christians should be the last people to persecute anyone -- including atheists. But that doesn't mean Christians have to accommodate atheism as they tolerate and love atheists.
So, right out of the gate...we have this common Christian confusion over saying they should be tolerant, but defending actions of intolerance. Because, you know, they shouldn't have to accommodate the sin...just love the sinners. *rolls eyes*
We have to recognize atheists' full freedom to believe God does not exist, but we don't have to embrace atheism as a social good. In fact, I would argue that atheism has no redeeming social value.
You condescending fuck! Christianity isn't exactly a "social good", numb nuts! Atheism has "no redeeming social value"? What about the values of truth, honesty, and rationality? What about the personal examination of ethics and morality without the threat of your big sky daddy? Tell me, good sir - what "societal value" came out of Waco? What beneficial "social value" comes out of Hilldale, UT? What "social value" was there when a handful of Islamic terrorists represented their allegiance to Allah by flying four airplanes into various targets in the United States?
Atheism undermines values. How? Let's look at care for others. Yes, an individual atheist might care for other people. But when have you heard of an entire atheist organization serving the poor, the sick or the hungry?
Where are you statistics, sir? Read this blog. If you truly believe that atheists don't care for others, than you are selectively blind. Since a majority of the world's scientists are, in fact, atheists, I think it's pure ignorance to suggest that those atheist scientists do not care about caring for others. Atheist scientists are, you know, working towards cures for diseases and engineering drought resistant crops...and any number of discoveries that will help humanity. And, on a personal level, I donate to quite a few charitable organizations.... I just don't feel the need to wear my contributions on my shirt sleeves, as Christians are so fond of doing.
So far, at least, atheists haven't demonstrated their concern for others in any organized way.
Bullshit. Do your homework, professor.
But more importantly, atheism undermines values such as care for others because it cannot explain why anyone should care for others. If there is no God or anything at all above nature, then nature is all there is. The law of nature is survival of the fittest. Why help the less fit survive unless there is a God who loves them because they are created in his image?
I can tell you, without pause, WHY I should care for others. I should care for others in hopes that they will, in turn, care for me in times of need. I should care for others because doing "good things" releases pleasing chemicals into my brain and causes positive psychological and physiological feelings. I should care because, if something were to happen to me, my children would benefit from my having been a caring and compassionate person. I should care because I want my children to learn empathy, compassion, tolerance, and charity. You don't need a belief in a deity to give you justification for not being a complete asshole (you, on the other hand, will use your belief as justification for being a complete asshole).
What argument can atheism marshal against "might makes right"?
Are you kidding me? How about the age old favorite of: if your friends jumped off the cliff, would you jump, too? Being in majority (or having might) does not make one right.
Many atheists argue that caring for others can be encouraged based on self-interest.
But what answer can an atheist give (that is consistent with atheism) to the question, "What if I figure out a way to be personally happy and fulfilled while oppressing other people?"
Let's see if you can follow along,...I'll try to make it simple.
I, maybe selfishly, hope that people will not harm me. In return, I pledge to not hurt other people. If someone violates that principle, then I may defend myself (or my children). I have the right to be "happy and fulfilled" so long as that happiness and fulfillment does not unfairly or unjustly burden other human beings. Wow...that was easy. Next!
There is no answer to that without appeal to someone transcendent to whom we are all accountable.
Bullshit. See above.
And atheism has no answer to social Darwinism -- the idea that society should not help the weak because it's nature's way to weed out the less fit.
Maybe because atheism doesn't address Darwinism. They're two entirely different positions. It's obvious that you are a complete blowhard, since you don't know that these two things are unrelated. Furthermore, I've never heard someone who believes in evolution who says, "Yeah. Fuck the weak." Usually, that role is filled by the Christian assholes spouting "might equals right".
Not only does atheism undermine values; it also undermines meaning. I'm talking about meaningful reality -- life with meaning and purpose.
Yep. You got me. I have no appreciation for the wonders that occur all around me. NOT!! You arrogant fuck - every action has meaning. Every item has a purpose. Every moment should be treasured, because that moment is irreplaceable. It will never happen again. Every laugh and giggle of my children sears itself onto my heart because I know that I will never hear that particular laugh or see that particular smile ever again. That moment is fleeting and, therefore, priceless.
But most atheists demonstrate their basic trust in the meaningfulness of reality by being outraged at evil and injustice, thereby demonstrating that atheism cannot be lived out consistently.
What kind of babble is this?
What makes something evil or unjust if nothing like God exists -- if nature is all there is? Only subjective choice either by an individual or a society. But that can change and it often does. Without God, the social prophet has no way out of relativism.
My eleven year old can answer these questions:
"Hey, P3! What makes something evil?" - "Disregarding the basic rights of another person...to, like, put yourself in a better position at their peril; doing horrible things to other people; making people less than people."
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Finally, let me repeat that I have nothing against atheists as persons and neither does Baylor University.
But in my opinion, they are people of character and virtue in spite of their philosophy of life -- not because of it.
And, I'm quite sure that your lack of intelligence and understanding is directly related to your desire to believe in a selectively omnipotent and omniscient being. Your God forbid that you would have to think for yourself and be ethical and moral because it's the right thing to be and not a COMMANDMENT.