Friday, September 21, 2007

Today was an exceptionally good day. Usually, during our Fair season, it's over 100 degrees and miserable. Today, it was actually quite stormy and cool. So, I GOT TO GET OUT of the house. YAY!
P2 is at a Scout Camp for the weekend. They were going to go to the Sequoias, but it's going to snow and their leaders weren't ready for that. So, they went over toward the coast instead. Anyway...here's a slide show of our day.
There's a pic of me in this one. :) Mr. Possum stole my camera and managed to fire off a few shots.
The LDS had a booth at the fair. *rolls eyes* I had to chuckle because they were right next to a booth hocking premium, home-grown coffee. Ha! There was also a little "story telling" play house where the kids could go in and hear a story - the stories were Biblical. My kids didn't go in, but I had to sit on the bench outside and listen (while the kids went browsing). This lady had a Jesus puppet. The story? Jesus curing the lepers. Yep. Nothing says "let's go get some cotton candy and pet some baby animals" better than leprosy.
Anyway...enjoy! If you want the captions that go along with the pics, just click on the slide show and it'll take you to the larger version.


50 comments:

John R said...

Who are you trying to impress with the pictures? I think you are trying to hard. No one parents like this in reality!!!!!!!!! Sorry! No one is that good. What are you hiding eh? I noticed that your kids wear Gymberee and designer labels but your supposed to be a liberal, socially aware guru. The elephant is probably mistreated and you pay the enslaver so you can have a kodak moment. You suck.

jr said...

No answer.

No crying kids.
1 treat for five people and nobodies crying.
1 teen who is happy to stay in the baby section of the midway.
1 little girl in a spotless dress for hours.
1 small boy with no meltdown.
I want to see the real pictures of your lives.
What kind of idiot buys expensive clothes for a small children?

Xzanron said...

Well, JR

I think you're just jealous. And spiteful, mean, self-centred.

I didn't see any designer clothes, not that I'd recognise them, how come you are so up on designer clothes that you can immediately recognise them?), but then if I want to see over-dressed kids wearing far-too-expensive clothes all I need to do is go to church. All those 6 year old kids made to wear formal suits and expensive dresses; they'll have outgrown them before the tailor's finished making it. For no other reason than sucking up to some non-existing entity. How about that for a frivolous waste of money?

If you were a reasonable, friendly, polite and virtuous person (instead of the prick you are) you'd be able to answer all of those questions yourself in a manner that only puts possommomma (or any momma) in a good light. And of course you'd not come to someone's blog and try to spoil a rightfully proud mother's joy at her children.

But then, not everyone was brought up in the "christian" tradition the emphasises manners and respect and decency.

Why is it that all atheists I know are better "christians", at least in behaviour to others, than most actual christians?

Kathryn said...

Gee, I thought jr was joking. This family looks like my family would at a fair. *scratches head*

And I was just going to tease possummomma that she meant hawking coffee, not hocking. (Hocking would be to pawn.)

:)

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Kathryn said...

xzanron, you forgot to point out jr's lack of command of the English language. Wait! I'll do it!

JR, you really should get a copy of "Painless Grammar" and read it thoroughly. It's Elementary Level, so you should be able to handle it.

:)

Andrea said...

John, is it? I know the Possums and came here to see their beautiful children enjoying a day out with mom. I did not come here to listen to you prattle on like a fool.

I doubt that Mrs. Possum is trying to impress you or anyone else. She's genuinely proud of her children and loves them dearly. She also loves photography. Kids plus camera equals photo blogging.

Here is why you are a prize fool. Possummomma is not at all label driven. She caught a phenomenal sale at Gymboree this summer. $700 worth of clothes for $230. I was impressed enough to ask her to web shop for me. Gracie is set for the year.
Are you some sort of stalker? Who looks at a foes pictures to see what the kids are wearing. Jerk!

Instead of being a fucktard-idiot, you should be asking how they do this. Why would any mom post a picture of a crying baby?

Do you work for PETA?

john r said...

Come with me and let's weigh the claims made by Possummomma.
Her kids are straight A students.

Her four year old can keep a dress clean at a fair for what looks like hours.

Her three year old is not crying in any pictures even thought it looks like evening and dinner time.

Everyone is smiling and sharing a squiggly cake. I have six kids. I don't have one picture where at least one child is unhappy. These photos look doctored or photoshopped. The lighting is perfect. The clothes are perfect. The smiles are perfect. It's perfect.

I have two teens and we let them run off on their own in these places because it's unfair to make them stay with the small children. Possum no. 1 looks like a nanny. Why isn't Possummomma on the elephant?

Where are the toys and midway prizes? U buy that they went to a fair and only looked at animals and big squash. Its perfect that her kids would smilingly share one squiggly bread and two Pepsis.

She sat and listened to a Bible story while the kids were where? You guys its just not possible that all of this perfect behavior points would be at play.

We never hear about her kids being bad. They are perfect.

If you believe her family is wonderful and perfect, I have a bridge. This is a PERFECT instance of how gullible atheists are to the devil and the devils ways.

John said...

To Andrea
I did not come here to listen to you prattle on like a fool.
All atheists are fool.
The fool in his heart has said there is no GOD.

Here is why you are a prize fool
The fool prize will always go to the atheists.

caught a phenomenal sale at Gymboree this summer. $700 worth of clothes for $230.
Perfect shopper. This *is* to much to believe.


Who looks at a foes pictures to see what the kids are wearing. Jerk!

She attacks the Duggar family by looking at shows and pictures. If she can't take it she should not dish it. This is a taste of her own medicine.


Zzanron
I didn't see any designer clothes, not that I'd recognise them, how come you are so up on designer clothes that you can immediately recognise them?), but then if I want to see over-dressed kids wearing far-too-expensive clothes all I need to do is go to church.
We dress for GOD. Of course we would wear our best. Who is Possums kids dressing for? I think the answer is vanity.


And of course you'd not come to someone's blog and try to spoil a rightfully proud mother's joy at her children.

like she did to the Christian Duggars.


The message of a true Christ follower is always hard to hear.

Sara (sassy) said...

If John has that many problems with his children, maybe he needs some parenting classes??

PMomma, your children are beautiful and look exactly like mine would at our local fair...good behavior, clothes and all. *wink*

I love seeing the pictures and glimpses into your everyday life.

Thanks for sharing with us!

Maggie Rosethorn said...

Pmomma - loved the pictures! And the slideshow with captions was really cool. I never was that good with a camera or had the patience to do those things. Haven't been to a fair for years, because around here they are horrible to get to. It looks like a good time was had by all, regardless of what John has to say.

John: why would the kids be crying? Mine never did when we were out at amusement parks or fairs. We stayed together usually, (until the kids were mid-late teens, much older than P1) shared what we ate, and never bought the stuff from the midway either. We rested when the kids needed to rest. If the kids played and won something, we would carry that around, but we rarely took the time to play those games.

BTW....as for "expensive clothes"...I imagine Pmomma caught the same sales I used to, when my kids were small enough for the clothes being sold. I, too, could buy hundreds of dollars of clothes for a fraction of the price. They were "last season" or whatever, but brand new (and very cheap...retail might be 25-30 dollars and I was paying 4-5 dollars).

As for the rest of your comments...to quote your favorite book...Judge not, lest you be judged. (yeah, atheists usually have read the bible too)

Terra said...

Pmomma,

You have beautiful children! And you took some beautiful pictures of them. That is all I will say.

Ginny said...

Pmomma the slideshow is GREAT! I love that you are adding photos to your blog and I'm really happy that you were able to get out and enjoy the day with your family...you totally deserved it! Your kids know what a great break that is for you, and it shows on their faces. They love you momma. :)

Poodles said...

Now I want some funnel cake! I love the fair, what a great time!

And John, piss off! Jealous much?

Atheist in a mini van. said...

John,
ROFLOL*breathe*LOL.
Are you learning impaired? Ok. I'll explain this slowly. GymbOree has this thing called "Friend's Days" and Gymbucks. I pay full price for nothing. Everything you see was purchased for AT LEAST 50-70% off. I buy Gymbo because it's made well and is durable enough to undergo several washings.

I suppose it's a good thing I didn't post the picture of P3 in her Juicy Couture track suit (gift from her "God Mother").

Also, since you brought it up, the company that makes Gymboree clothes is THE highest paying manufacturer in the area. They've been celebrated for paying an actually living wage with benefits. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

I'll just give Maggie an "Amen" and let that answer the rest of your bullshit.

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To everyone else,
Thank you! I had so much fun getting out of the house. We've all got massive sugar hangovers this morning. Now I know why you only eat fair food once a year...and we didn't even eat that much.

John R said...

I like people to be real. Possummomma only gives us the positive view. I want to know about her skeletons and her kids problems. Christians are open about our flaws. Atheists should be to. Four lily white children are boring and undemensional. If she really wanted to get me to be an atheist she could show me how atheists deal with their faults instead of hiding it.

I don't buy this illness. What is the mystery illness? On the podcast she admitted to taking drugs. pEOPLE ARE NOT PERFECT.

Maggie Rosethorn said...

Oh, John, for goodness' sake: Pmomma has never made any secret of her illnesses. Go back and read up her past posts. She has lupus, and has had problems with kidney stones recently. I believe (without searching past posts as it's my bedtime) she also has myesthenia gravis, also. (please correct me if I am wrong, anyone). If you don't know what these "mysterious illnesses" are, try google or the Merck manual. They are not rare illneses, but can be devestating.

As to perfection; no, people are NOT perfect. Pmomma has never said she or her family is. But, like most GOOD parents, Pmomma focuses on the good in her children, and how wonderful they are, and they reflect that love, confidence and attention. Children who know they are loved and feel secure in that love grow up to be wonderful adults (I know...I have 2 of them, and yes, they were, and are, mostly straight A students in high school and college, happy, confident, agnostic adults. I'll boast about my kids anytime!!! )

john r said...

I am not being understood. HOW does she do it? She's an atheist and her marriage is perfect and her kids are perfect and they behave perfectly and she journals perfect. Without the help of a community in Christ how does she do this? My wife and I are forever turning to the Lord to help us train our children. Who is training PMs children? We ask for strangth from HIM. HE could make her possums even better. I think its impossible without Christ. Goodness and light come from within HIM.
Possummomma is tapping a resource but its not our heavenly father so who is she tapping?

Poodles said...

John,
Herself dumbass! And I bet her husband too. If you need some skydaddy to help you raise your kids, then you are the one with the problem not Possummomma.

People have it in them to raise good families without superstition.

JOHN R said...

I see you can't say anything without vulgarity.
What I am hearing is that you believe nothing helps an atheist be a good parent. Its just a bunch of brain waves and internal power source that tells you how to raise a child. Who gives you the ability to chose between right and wrong? Atheists count on the bad idea that God will look away while you ignore him. Christ will not bless the child who is raised in permisive environments with no Godly law. Its selfish and stupid to train a child without God.

God also said honor thy father and mother. Not the parents should honor the child. Child centric homes are ungodly.

Perpetual Beginner said...

Uff dah. John - one is a good parent by paying close attention to one's children, especially to the good things about them. When you focus on what your children do well, they usually blossom. I have found that too many parents, and many, many religious ones, focus on where the child is wrong, or weak, and tries desperately to "fix" their children, as if being imperfect human beings means that they're broken.

In kindergarten, my son had a teacher like that. She ignored his strengths (reads like a house afire, math whiz), and focused exclusively on his faults (rather immature for his age). By halfway through the school year he was in the principal's office several times a week and they were trying to put him on ADD medication. We pulled him out of that school instead.

New year, different school, teacher who emphasized what he was good at = a child on the honor roll, and all of one note home the entire year for misbehavior. He was willing to work his butt off to keep his teacher's good opinion.

God had nothing to do with it.

Perpetual Beginner said...

Also, John - you're saying things that are a lot more rude than simple name-calling. Couching it in nicer language doesn't make it a nicer sentiment.

aimee said...

Did you come on to this blog to see her write about a tantrum her son might have had, or ice cream spilled on a dress? Are your kids not happy, is that why you have such a stick up your ass? The readers hear are interested in knowing that finally Pmomma was able to go out and have a great day with her family.

And do you really think your sky daddy gives a flying flip about what you are wearing? Puhlease.

TonyInBatavia said...

John, you're just a knucklehead. And I doubt you really use your "holy" book as a set of instructions for raising children. Just check out Psalms 137:9, which says "Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones." Why haven't you dashed your little ones against stones? It'd teach 'em once and for all, you'd be a happy man, and all of your wonderful godliness would be on display for the world to see.

Or, wait, I bet you used your *human* sensibilities to casually dismiss that particular instruction from your god -- along with a long list of other instructions he's "given" us -- because you recognize the instruction to be horrific. It's those very human -- and humane -- sensitivities that guide those of us that don't believe your magical sky pixie exists. We know this is the only life we've got and that we've got to get it right.

By the way, "honoring your father and mother" is a ludicrous commandment. Fornicating and bringing a child to term is hardly a reason for honor ... you make it sound as though you deserve to be honored because you donated sperm to your wife's egg. Well, that's just delusional. A real commandment would say "earn the respect of your fellow human beings and respect those that have earned it." You might sometime consider earning the respect you want (that goes for contributing here, too). P-Momma has surely earned it.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Possummomma is tapping a resource but its not our heavenly father so who is she tapping?

It's called family, jerk-off. My husband and I lean into each other. We've vested the kids with responsibilties suited to their age and abilities. We have the help of family and friends. The big, sky-daddy is unecessary!

Christ will not bless the child who is raised in permisive environments with no Godly law. Its selfish and stupid to train a child without God.

You're an idiot. So, in your world, God punishes children for their parents choices? If so, then your God is unworthy of worship.
I would argue that it's "stupid and selfish" to raise children to depend on an imaginary, easily angered deity. I absolutely believe that it's better to raise children with self-worth and love, than fear.


Not the parents should honor the child. Child centric homes are ungodly.
Children should respect their parents if the parents do their job and earn it. If a parent shows him/herself to be a dependable guardian, then the child will look up to the parent and emulate what they see. Give a child respect and you'll get respect in turn. You get what you give.
As for child centric homes, YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT this is a child centric home! Proud of it! My children are the world to me. My husband and I knew that, when we had children, we chose the most important job in the world - raising the next generation of humanity. I will use any and all "child centric" tools at my disposal to help them become the best people they may become. The question is: why aren't YOU doing the same for your children? Why are you treating your children as chatel or servants to a sky pixie?

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Go back and read up her past posts. She has lupus, and has had problems with kidney stones recently. I believe (without searching past posts as it's my bedtime) she also has myesthenia gravis, also. (please correct me if I am wrong, anyone).
Hi Maggie,
You were almost 100% correct. :) I have: lupus, fibromyalgia, hemiplegic migraines, lupus nephritis, and scads of other lupus related issues.


When you focus on what your children do well, they usually blossom.
Perpetual Beginner,
I completely agree! Accentuate the positive... dwelling on faults doesn't help change the fault. Using the child's strengths to improve upon its weaknesses is key. And, it leads to happier children!
I'm sorry your son had to experience such a horrible teacher. :(

Tony...you're just funny! Love it!

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Aimee,
That's what I don't get...why would any parent post pictures of their child having a bad day? What good would that do? I guess I could've taken pictures during the fifteen minutes that P4 and I sat/laid on the grass looking at clouds and taking a breather (because p4 was tired). But, why? John just doesn't get it, apparently. Tired and cranky kids don't have to escalate to tyrants. If you listen to them and follow their cues, you can avert disaster by redirection or taking a few moments to help them regroup and rest.
And, I agree Aimee...that must be a large stick up his ass. Or, maybe it's one of those huge zuchinnis from my pictures? LOL

TonyInBatavia said...

Hey P-Momma,

Thanks for the props, but I tried to throw down a couple serious points in there, too. ;)

The whole "a real commandment..." thing got me trying to remember where I'd read that concept previously, and then I remembered that I'd read it in a book on the bible and morality by Steve Allen (yes, that Steve Allen). There, he dissected the two conflicting versions of commandments in the bible (*way* more than ten, by the way) and then presented a more contemporary list of commandments that he'd written. I hope you don't mind that I'm using your comments space for them, but I thought you and some of your readers might find them interesting. I find them far superior to the tripe listed in the bible.

THE TEN NEW COMMANDMENTS
BY STEVE ALLEN

1. Honor love as the greatest of virtues for it brings both immediate and distant blessings, and turn your face against hatred for it produces much of the evil in the world.
2. Strive always to be honest, not only in deed but in word.
3. Be generous in all ways, for as you are grateful for the generosity of others bestowed upon you, so you must share your blessings with others, and not only in a material sense.
4. If there is an all-loving God, a person would be a heartless child who would not love such a Father. In the day of his coming, if it occurs, the loving heart will know how to respond. In the meantime, be compassionate to that concerning which there can be certain knowledge: the world and its inhabitants.
5. Educate your children and yourself till the day of your death, for knowledge brings power to improve the world, whereas ignorance leads to confusion and misery.
6. Value freedom by being philosophically tolerant, for, though all intellectual camps are certainly not of equal value or virtue, there is as yet no court of universal appeal. If you would have freedom to live by the light of your own conscience, you must grant the same to others, so long as they do not transgress reasonable legal codes.
7. Respect the property of others, as you wish the world to respect your own. You have the right only to what is freely given to you, what has fallen into your hands through generosity of nature, or what you have worked to obtain in an honest manner.
8. The vows of mutual love, exchanged in marriage, are legally and morally binding. Do not hasten into marriage, for by that act you renounce your freedom to engage in romantic or sexual conduct with others.
9. Because you would not want to be physically abused yourself, therefore do not abuse others.
10. You have heard it said that children must respect their parents. There is great wisdom in this instruction, but only insofar as parents respect their children.

Calladus said...

I am not being understood. HOW does she do it? She's an atheist and her marriage is perfect and her kids are perfect and they behave perfectly and she journals perfect. Without the help of a community in Christ how does she do this?

John, This is your problem. You are a Christian who can't believe that you can be good without God. Other Christians understand that this isn't true. Perhaps you need to expand your circle of friends to include more accepting Christians? There are many in the world, and the ones that I count as friends accept me for being an Atheist.

Remember, part of being a Christian is attempting to emulate Christ. But that isn't something an Atheist should be teaching you.

Saurian200 said...

God also said honor thy father and mother. Not the parents should honor the child. Child centric homes are ungodly.

Wow! As much as some atheists like Dawkins and Hitchens try, no one can make the Christian god seem like more of a cruel heartless B@stard than Christians.

tina said...

Oh my flying spaghetti monster!!!

I was just sitting here going through my blogs that I have in my favorites and came to yours. My husband doesn't blog anymore but he knows some of you bloggers from me. In the process of reading your posts I told my husband how sometimes you get some pretty strange people commenting....well, that sounds a lot nicer than what I actually said. :)

At first I thought this John was kidding. The more I read, the more I realized that there really are people like this in the world, hateful, spiteful, intolerant and... whatever! I am truly upset that this person cannot stand to see a family happy. How cruel and asinine!

Maybe your kids WOULD all be happy if you sent THEM to the fair with Possummomma. (that was from my husband) You sound like a whiny little beotch. Man, I sure want to say a lot more but I think I will just keep getting more pissed!

Oh yeah, got side tracked. Your kids look really happy to have a momma like you! (I didn't get on the elephant either!) Shhhh....

Larro said...

First off. I won't go on at length here about "John Jr", as it's kinda getting late and I need to retire for the night. However I will say this: John is a first rate f*ing moron. You know...a stupid ass hillbilly.

Gramomster said...

I love the pics! So glad you got out to enjoy a day with the family.
You gotta tell me more about this 'friend bucks' (?) thing at Gymboree! I'd love to shop there for the grandboy!
It is just lovely that P1 and P3 loved their elephant ride... why wouldn't a big sister love to support her little sister in such an adventure?! That's a moment for Momma to watch, and love (and feel the love!)
Someday I'm gonna have to figure out how to do the whole slideshow thing. Grandboy is growing soooo fast now! Sixteen months. What a great age!

Atheist in a mini van. said...

You gotta tell me more about this 'friend bucks' (?) thing at Gymboree! I'd love to shop there for the grandboy!

Well, here's the way I do it.
I signed up (a few years ago) for the Gymboree, online news. Just go to Gymboree.com and sign up. You'll get e-mails telling you about upcoming sales. My rule is that I will only buy sales on sale. So, for example, this last sale was a 30% off everything in your cart sale. So, I only clicked on the stuff that was already marked down.
The dress Grace is wearing in the picture is normally $50. But, it'd been marked down to $20 for clearance. THEN, I applied the thirty percent discount. That dress ended up at $13. Their shipping is a flat $5.95. Now, if you buy $50 worth of stuff (even if it's on sale) you get a $25 Gymbuck to use on a future purchase. I spent $300 on Grace and Owen and now I have $150 free money for the next sale. If you get into a groove and time it right, you can make out like gangbusters.

During this last round, I spent $300 for like $800 worth of clothes. Each kid ended up with seven full outfits (dress, tights/leggings, socks, hair bows - OR- t-shirt, pants/overalls, socks, hat) and a few pairs of pajamas.

I'll use the Gymbucks when the Christmas clothes come out and get them with the Gymbucks for a song. :)

DiverL said...

Wow, I can't believe the so-called Christians that act like idiots when they come on your blog, PM.

I know there a Christians out there that would love to get a hold of this guy and "forgive him"...lol. so he can be free of sin to do it again...UGH!

Sean the Blogonaut F.C.D. said...

Yay John's back.

Whenever I meet Christians who say that there are no christian extremist nutcases I refer them to John's posts on PM's blog.

Bwian said...

I am not being understood. HOW does she do it? She's an atheist and her marriage is perfect and her kids are perfect and they behave perfectly and she journals perfect. Without the help of a community in Christ how does she do this?

Well, isn't it obvious? With the help of a community of Santa! He knows when you are sleeping, and he knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good, so naturally her children are good for goodness sake.

Honestly, it makes about as much sense as your approach...

SurvivorMama said...

Hmmmm...long time lurker, first time poster.

Possummomma is one of my best friends. My family and I have been guests in her home. We talk several times a week, and I typically get a call from Possumdaddy when Possummomma is in the hospital. So, I know a thing or two about the family.

1. No children are that smart---Her Possums are some of the brightest, smartest, most well behaved children I've had the pleasure of meeting. I've seen the report cards on the fridge, I've seen the books they read, I've had conversations with them. When they found out I lived in the DC area, the first thing they asked is if there were any museums there. They are kids who love learning.

2. Possummomma spends too much on clothes--Well, check out Gymboree sometime and you'll discover that they have exceptionally good sales. I, too, took advantage of the sales that Possummama did a month or so ago and got most everything for 40% of retail price. And, being as Possummama hands P3 clothes down to me and I had clothes down to P4, the investment we both make in quality clothing serves multiple children. Or is co-oping children's clothing a bit too liberal an idea for you?

3. No meltdown photos--come on, who posts photos of their kids crying, anyway? But...PMomma is one of the best mothers I know...she is an excellent disciplinarian (without spanking or screaming at the kids, imagine that...) Her kids are amazing. I've learned from her and am proud to say her methods work very well and I have 2 well behaved children who can go out for an entire day at the zoo, not scream and cry and act out, can share a dessert, and come home looking clean and fresh. Why? Because I've taught them the value in keeping their clothes clean. By buying them nicer clothes that they love (at a very discounted price), they treat them better. Believe me or don't...it doesn't matter much to me. But it's the way things work. You treat a Mercedes better than a Gold Ford Pinto, and young children are capable of understanding this concept if you bother to take the time to teach them.

Child centric homes are ungodly...hmmmm...I could have a field day with this one...but it is safe to say that the Possum household does not cater to the children--but it is focused on raising the children to be intelligent, well disciplined, thoughtful, kids. The P-Family is evidence of what happens when you spend the time to educate your children at home, in the public school system, and focus your energy on building productive members of the community.


Let's see...what else...oh, yes, I'm a life-long committed Christian--with a dear friend who's an atheist. Fancy that...

SurvivorMama said...

Oh and one more little thing...both P-Momma and I have kids who know that if they were screaming, crying, and acting up at the fair, then we'd be leaving the fair. We don't tolerate that kind of behavior from our children, thus we don't see it very often because bad behavior results in logical consequences. For example, my 4 year old son got his dinner taken away, was excused from the table, and didn't get dessert yesterday because he was playing in his mashed potatoes and kept playing after he was asked to stop. I'll bet money that he won't be playing in his mashed potatoes tonight.

This type of parenting, by the way, is espoused by the Christian community as well...Love and Logic parenting. Look it up sometime.

Jennifer said...

P-Momma, your children are gorgeous, and bring even my cold, motherless, atheist heart around to the idea of one day possibly bearing my own. Or, maybe not...maybe I will just continue to live vicariously through you! :D

It's been kind of humorous (and sad) watching the meltdown of john r. It's like his brain is exploding with the mind-numbing realizations: "But...but...I'm a Christian!! And...your kids are better-behaved than mine! But...I'm a Christian!! It just don't make no sense!!! Jeeeessuuuuss, PMomma's not being faaiiirr!!!" I'd think he were a parody if I didn't know any better.

I can't quite figure it out...is he trying to blame the fact that his kids are greedy brats on your excellent parenting? Or else find out the mysterious "power" you've been leaning on to help support you...because, as we all know, Satan's Number One Priority is making sure that attractive, well-behaved children are raised in loving and nurturing households that encourage freedom of thought and caring for one another. You know, along with the flag-burning and gay butt sex.

*Sigh* Anyways, keep on keepin' on. You look great.

John R said...

Possummomma is one of my best friends. My family and I have been guests in her home. We talk several times a week, and I typically get a call from Possumdaddy when Possummomma is in the hospital. So, I know a thing or two about the family.
Your "best friend" denies your God and she is still a friend? I could not have an atheist for a friend. It would be a slap in the face to my God.

1. No children are that smart---Her Possums are some of the brightest, smartest, most well behaved children I've had the pleasure of meeting. I've seen the report cards on the fridge, I've seen the books they read, I've had conversations with them.
Smart kids aren't always moral.

2. Possummomma spends too much on clothes--Well, check out Gymboree sometime and you'll discover that they have exceptionally good sales. I, too, took advantage of the sales that Possummama did a month or so ago and got most everything for 40% of retail price. And, being as Possummama hands P3 clothes down to me and I had clothes down to P4, the investment we both make in quality clothing serves multiple children. Or is co-oping children's clothing a bit too liberal an idea for you?
Two, well-off mothers trading fancy clothes instead of giving them to the poor. WWJD. I think you and Possummomma are blinded by your material goods. My wife is a children's pastor and says that kids in Gymboree are always stuck up brats. Dressing children in fifty dollar dresses shows how stupid the parent is.

You friendship with Possummomma goes against our beliefs. The devil will use any means to trip you up. The devil could make Possummommas kids seem wonderful when they're really sinfilled.

Let's see...what else...oh, yes, I'm a life-long committed Christian--with a dear friend who's an atheist. Fancy that...

I do not fancy that. I will pray for you. You are being drawn to sin by possums. What will you say to our father at the judgement day?

It's been kind of humorous (and sad) watching the meltdown of john r. It's like his brain is exploding with the mind-numbing realizations: "But...but...I'm a Christian!! And...your kids are better-behaved than mine! But...I'm a Christian!! It just don't make no sense!!! Jeeeessuuuuss, PMomma's not being faaiiirr!!!" I'd think he were a parody if I didn't know any better.

Until today I didn't know how my father in heaven would let someone against Him be good at parenting. I prayed about it and God told me that her family looks good because Satan uses them as tools to draw Christians away from His WORD. Go ahead and mock me. The Lord sees all.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Dressing children in fifty dollar dresses shows how stupid the parent is.

Their hair-shirts and potato sacks were at the cleaners. :/ For someone who's against materialism, you sure know a lot about labels and materials. I find it incredibly amusing that you're like the Gymbo Tzar.

Jennifer said...

john r said:

"I prayed about it and God told me that her family looks good because Satan uses them as tools to draw Christians away from His WORD. Go ahead and mock me. The Lord sees all."

See, it's stuff like this which makes me think john r is really a brilliant satirist who is having a laugh playing the perfect wingnut. I mean, the mindless godbottery is so spot-on, so perfect...it's almost suspicious.

Seriously, though, God talks to him. He hears him in his head, telling him that your chilluns are the tools of Satan. How is this guy not in a mental institution?

Atheist in a mini van. said...

See, it's stuff like this which makes me think john r is really a brilliant satirist who is having a laugh playing the perfect wingnut. I mean, the mindless godbottery is so spot-on, so perfect...it's almost suspicious.


I agree. I mean, he's been trolling here for some time, but... now he's just over-the-top. On the other hand, I sort of measure every encounter by the "he who shall not be named" drama. I thought Bill was pretty fake, too...until he wasn't.

Jennifer said...

The same thought occurred to me, too. Scary stuff....

TonyInBatavia said...

John, I'll say it again, you're a knucklehead. I mean, your elevator not only can't make it up to the top floor, it appears to be stuck in the basement. Your carton's not just an egg short, but the rest are cracked. You're not dullest tool in the shed but the dullest tool at a Arkansas flea market.

Scariest of all is that you've possibly passed your seriously negligent DNA on to the next generation. I just hold out hope that once they escape your honor-demanding stranglehold that they'll open their eyes and see how demented and screwed up it is for you to act toward other humans as you've acted toward P-Momma and her beautiful children. You're a small, pathetic, ugly little creature that your god would likely squash like a bug and toss into hellfire from the Pearly Gates, embarrassed for having created such a despicable being ... if he existed.

See, if hell is supposed to scare me to believe in god when I don't -- and you're not stupid enough to think we'd believe that nonsense about Satan and hell when we don't believe in god, right? -- shouldn't the threat of hell at least scare you into being civil, understanding, and respectful toward your fellow humans? If not, you should really, seriously think about giving up your god and your Satan and your hell and join us ... where we're moral because it's the right thing to be, not because we fear eternal punishment.

Short of that, I would expect that you'd at least apologize to P-Momma for being hateful and spiteful towards her. Or does your version of morality somehow prevent you from being a standup human?

Perpetual Beginner said...

Wow. They will know we are Christians by our love indeed.

John, your behavior here is about as unloving as I can imagine short of physical threats and stalking. You are causing people who do not revere Christ to think that following him causes people to be insulting and hateful. In other words, you are actively driving people away from God.

He must be so proud of you.

SurvivorMama said...

Your "best friend" denies your God and she is still a friend? I could not have an atheist for a friend. It would be a slap in the face to my God.
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Matt 5:14-16 "You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

God's has blessed me beyond measure and every day, I am grateful for that. God's light shines in me and through me, and my response to that is to show God's unconditional love with his children. All of his children. Jesus did not spend his time on earth with the righteous--in fact, he scolded the righteous for their arrogance. He spent his time on earth with the "sinners" rather than the saints. If my only friends are Christians, how is the light of God in my life shining? I'm living Christ's example by befriending and loving all of God's people, not just those I deem worthy of the love and light God has given me.

Smart kids aren't always moral.
I'll grant you that one.

Two, well-off mothers trading fancy clothes instead of giving them to the poor. WWJD.
I think Jesus would be perfectly happy with our arrangement. He'd also be pleased with the 6 bags of clothing (some of which were from P3) that I took to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. He would also be pleased with the hundreds of dollars of baby equipment and toys I donated to my next door neighbor, about to lose her home to foreclosure, so she could open up a home based daycare. And all the money I contribute to the Komen National Race for the Cure. And the March of Dimes. And the Whitman Walker Clinic. But, I think that Jesus is happy that I'm sharing the blessings he's given me with my friends.

I think you and Possummomma are blinded by your material goods.
Blinded, because we bargain shop and pay $5.59 for a Gymboree shirt that retailed at $24.95 rather than paying $5.59 for a shirt at Walmart, that will last longer and serve multiple kids?

My wife is a children's pastor and says that kids in Gymboree are always stuck up brats. Dressing children in fifty dollar dresses shows how stupid the parent is.

What a generalization. I was unaware that the tag in the back of someone's clothing had a direct correlation to their behavior. I am, frankly, shocked that a children's pastor would be referring to children as "stuck up brats" and making this assumption based on the clothes they wear.

Matt 7:1-5 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.


If you are a believer, you know that all good things come from God. God doesn't promise that all good things will only come to people who accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. The fact that an atheist/agnostic has a nice family and nice things shouldn't anger you or even surprise you. Instead of looking for evidence of Satan in those things and spewing venom at P-Momma, look for the blessings of God in her life and, if you choose, point those out to her with love and compassion.

You aren't going to win souls by posting hateful comments in someone's blog, like "you suck," suggesting that she is "stupid" for buying nice clothes from tine to time for her kids (at the same price as lesser quality clothing), and assuming all children wearing said clothing are "brats." Just to name a few. Show the fruits of the spirit. I'm not seeing any love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, or self-control in any of your comments here. They will know us by our fruits. I don't claim to know anything about your relationship with God. But I'm not seeing the light of God's love in your actions.

You friendship with Possummomma goes against our beliefs. The devil will use any means to trip you up. The devil could make Possummommas kids seem wonderful when they're really sinfilled.

How does it go against our beliefs? Jesus' last words on earth were "therefor go and make disciples of all nations." How does only befriending people of similar beliefs help me to carry out the Great Commission? Not that my sole purpose in my friendship with P-Momma is to change her heart towards God--but I would guess that my friendship, acts of kindness, calling her when she's sick, sending her clothes for her children, and encouraging her when she's discouraged are a far more productive witness than calling her names and insulting her family on her blog.

I do not fancy that. I will pray for you. You are being drawn to sin by possums. What will you say to our father at the judgement day?

I appreciate the prayers. I always appreciate prayers. But I respectfully disagree that I'm being drawn to sin by following Christ's example of enjoying the company of unbelievers and sinners. As to what I will say on Judgement Day? "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I endeavored to feed your lambs and tend your sheep." Will God say "Well done, my good and faithful servant?" I can only hope so.

Maggie Rosethorn said...

Survivormama - you sound like someone I would love to have as a friend and as a neighbor. Whether or not we agree on religion, we would be friends because we share so many values. Pmomma is very lucky to have you as a friend and neighbor!

Gee....is coveting someone's friend 'cause they are so cool wrong? (LOL)

SurvivorMama said...


Gee....is coveting someone's friend 'cause they are so cool wrong? (LOL)


Hmmm...let's see...the neighbor's house, wife, man/maidservant, a$$, and possessions all seem to be off limits. I don't think I fall into any of those categories--and I'm certain you wouldn't covet my a$$. So...covet away! ;-)

And, nice to meet you, Miss Maggie! :)

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Pmomma is very lucky to have you as a friend and neighbor!

I wish she was my neighbor!! Unfortunately, we're about as far apart as you can be in the United States. Our phone bills prove it. LOL

But, she is a dear friend and you may covet her if you wish. :)