Tuesday, May 15, 2007

Ding dong the witch is dead...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070515/ap_on_re_us/jerry_falwell

For those who may have been, like me, slow to hit the news channels this morning; Jerry Falwell is dead. Ok... you knew it would happen, I already have rantings.
1. "We're sorry to have to report of the untimely death of Jerry Falwell." - The guy was 73 years old and starting to look like Jabba the Hut. There's nothing untimely about someone dying at 73.
2. "Falwell was, without question, the most influential evangelical and will be missed." - Um. I have a question. Why are they saying that like it's a good thing? Jerry Falwell was influential alright... he "influenced" people to be intolerant, self-righteous bigots. And,..I, for one, will not miss him.
3. "Falwell was on the leading edge of the stem cell debate." - ???? Wasn't Falwell the guy who said that, "(he) sympathized with sick people, but..." basically they should value the life of the unborn more than their own life? The only thing that Falwell was on the "leading edge" of was spreading misinformation and scaring the crap out of his flock with doomsday predictions that would never "come to pass".
4. "It is believed that there will be some sort of tribute at the commencement ceremony of Liberty University..." - Ya' think? Even Mrs. Cleo could've called that one. It is *HIS* "university". From the article linked above: "The day before he died, Falwell "had been up on the mountain by the logo, and students were up there picnicking, and he had had a happy exchange with those students," Godwin said. Tuesday morning, he said, Falwell was talking about plans for the future. " Well, that would be about in line with his previous powers of prediction. Unless the sum total of his plans consisted of eating a couple of Krispy Kremes before bed and waking up dead on his desk, I'd say he struck out once again.

Would it be entirely too snarky to point out that "the gays, lesbians, feminists, and liberal groups" are still here? You can rest assured that if Falwell were alive, he'd blame his death on them. Oooooooh...maybe that "Jewish, male Antichrist" did this?

51 comments:

Sara (sassy) said...

I figured you'd have something up already. *wink*

Atheist in a mini van. said...

I figured you'd have something up already. *wink*
:)
What? I wasn't going to post it in that other place we both know and love. LOL Unlike Falwell, I have no desire to be crucified and martyred. :)

berlzebub said...

1. "We're sorry to have to report of the untimely death of Jerry Falwell." - The guy was 73 years old and starting to look like Jabba the Hut. There's nothing untimely about someone dying at 73.

Here, here. When you're that overweight, and get that red-faced when someone disagrees with you, it's only a matter of time.

From the article:
Last year, Falwell marked the 50th anniversary of his church and spoke out on stem cell research, saying he sympathized with people with medical problems, but that any medical research must pass a three-part test: "Is it ethically correct? Is it biblically correct? Is it morally correct?" [My emphasis]

Did they just give us proof that even Falwell didn't believe ethics and morals came from the bible?

I sympathize with his family, for their loss, but if he'd helped the country progress, instead of trying to hinder every advancement, I might actually feel bad about his passing. Although, I'll be the Republicans will be calling for flags to be flown at half-mast.

-Berlzebub

Tone said...

My best friend just sent me an e-mail that sumed it up.. "The teletubbies are free, The teletubbies are free."

Matt D. said...

I just posted over at the wiki forums and almost used the "Ding Dong..." line as a title, but I opted for "One down..."

Rev. BigDumbChimp said...

So long sleazeball. With all the media frenzy that is sure to happen this week I hope people will remember him for what he really was. A giant asshole.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

I just posted over at the wiki forums and almost used the "Ding Dong..." line as a title, but I opted for "One down..."



Great minds... ;)

Irim said...

HALLELUJAH, AMEN!!!!

I was just coming here to post a comment on the death of Jerry Falwell on your latest blog post, whatever it was...and you beat me to it.

I'm counting this one as an early birthday present from the universe!

*Does funky chicken dance*

Sorry to have to report the death of, my a** - everyone rejoice and sing!

Ixx

shaun said...

I hate almost everything that Falwell stands (stood?) for, and I'm glad he won't have the opportunity to spout the unmitigated hatred and bigotry that so effortlessly vomited forth from his mouth. However, I can't bring myself to feel elation at someone's passing. I'm not sure what is preventing me from doing so in this case, as he was such a vile man...

Queen Pickle said...

Was he the one that had a 'vision' of a 40 foot Jesus that told him he needed money? Or was that some other money grubbing zealot?

*passes pieces of chocolate jesus to celebrate*

Saurian200 said...

P-Momma,

Unless the sum total of his plans consisted of eating a couple of Krispy Kremes before bed and waking up dead on his desk, I'd say he struck out once again.

Well, if those were his plans you have to admit, he went out on a high note. He finally got one right. Though, of all his predictions, I doubt that was the one he really wanted to get right.

You know he did this just so he could wait up in heaven for the world to end and then say, "Told ya!", to everyone in line to be judged. Prick.

Is it in bad taste to say that about a dead guy? Ah, screw it that's my memorial to the memory of Jerry Falwell.

He was a Prick.

Now for a moment of silence.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Was he the one that had a 'vision' of a 40 foot Jesus that told him he needed money? Or was that some other money grubbing zealot?

I think that was Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Baker... but, they are/were just one big amalgamation of zealotry. They were "all tight, like dat'."

Irim said...

*moment of silence*

Queen Pickle, is that white, milk or dark?

*Accepts gratefully, passing on a piece of Tammy Faye's marzipan head*

Ixx

Scott said...

That was Oral Roberts who demanded $8 million or God would "call him home".

I'm in the same ethical quandary with Shaun. He was a dangerous, hateful demagogue and I'm glad he's stopped, but I can't quite bring myself to be happy he's dead. I'm sure *someone* genuinely loved the old bastard.

George said...

Whoever that someone was it wasn't me. Good riddance to the bastard.

shaun said...

*Sigh of relief* A friend of mine blogged the following comment:

While so many Americans would cheer upon the event of Osama Bin Laden's death, why should Falwell deserve any less animosity? Were the two really that different? Both twisted the words of their respective faiths (both faiths in actuality teach peace, love, and brotherhood) to conjure ill will. Bin Laden simply had the nerve to act upon it; to tap into the enmity he had created & take it to the next step: destruction.


I agree with him wholeheartedly and now I don't feel so bad that I get a little joy out of this asshole's death...

Virginia aka Ginny said...

Can't seem to muster not one iota of caring. I'm glad the rat bastard is dead.

lynn's daughter said...

Oh, PossumMama! you're so naughty. But you're right. I, for one, am somewhat peeved that he got to live this long. I'd actually kinda fantasized that he be found face dead in a prostitutes bed, or something. I'm just sayin'...

aimee said...

I don't know a whole lot about Falwell other than what I have heard from my husband.

One person though that I will be more than happy to dance on their grave his Fred Phelps.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

When Phelps dies,... ah', a dream IS a wish your heart makes.

I hope, when Fred Phelps dies and they erect his monument stone, that gays and lesbians show up to protest his funeral. I'm not normally a fan of vandalism...but, I kind of hope that they rent a plane to drop rainbow confetti over his funeral and swag trees, cars, and store fronts with rainbow-y goodness.

Paul said...

"One person though that I will be more than happy to dance on their grave his Fred Phelps."

Fred gets a bladder evacuation on his grave from me.

Jerry has presumably found out by now that there isn't an after life, bummer for him!

Anatoly said...

I'd say I've found my religion with the wrench finally dying. But then again if there is a god, he's quite a prick for letting Jerry live in the first place. There isnt any chance that Liberty "University" will do the same thing as it's founder, is there?

Anyway, a happy day for all sane people indeed.

Nick said...

Pmomma, there may yet be a loving God after all.

(hehehe)

Sorry, just a moment of weakness passing by.

Allyson said...

Does anyone ELSE find it ironic that WBC will be protesting at Falwell's funeral? It's right on their website: http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Does anyone ELSE find it ironic that WBC will be protesting at Falwell's funeral? It's right on their website: http://www.godhatesamerica.com/
Wow!

The Rev. Jenner J. Hull said...

Even when he was alive, Falwell was at the top of my list of "People I'd Sooner Chop in the Throat Than Look At."

I don't think it's wrong to feel relief upon his death.

Falwell spent his entire life actively attempting to subvert the Constitution and bring about a Christian theocracy. He constantly condemned anyone who didn't buy his specific brand of Christianity to eternal torture.

If Richard Dawkins were to die instead, Falwell would've rejoiced in Dawkins' death while offering banal platitudes about god. And he would've, doubtlessly, smugly remarked on how Dawkins would be burning in Hell, having not accepted Jebus as his personal savior.

So, fuck Falwell. At least now, we'll all get a nice re-cap of all the horrible, bigoted, non-Christian things he said...

HeathenAngel said...

I hate to admit that I am feeling more than relief that the worthless ass-hat has shuffled off his mortal coil. .. .. NAH.. I don't hate to admit it, at all. I'm thrilled that the world has suddenly become a slightly better place without someone as vitriolic as him.

The "Ding Dong.." title fits perfectly. Odd that I have been humming it all day.

*TheHeathenAngel*

Chakolate said...

I almost used the 'Ding Dong' line, too.

I just wish he'd taken with him all the hatred, intolerance, and bigotry he incited.

On a happier note, maybe Pat Robertson is next.

PiGuy said...

That Falwell lived 73 years is indisputable evidence that is no god. If there were, that rat bastard would've taken a lightning between the eyes decades ago.

Thranil said...

I was going around yesterday and greeting people with "Happy Jerry-Falwell-Is-Dead Day!"

I think now I'm going to turn this into a month-long celebration thing...

smellincoffee said...

In the words of Mark Twain..."I've never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."

fubarmonkey said...

I almost felt like saying "Good Riddance" when I heard about him passing away, but to be honest, I really don't care all that much. There are other evangelist lined up to pick up where he left off and they are going to somehow turn this into some kind of prophecy or self-deluded proof for their idiotic arguments.

On the other hand, it's people like that make me glad I don't believe in an afterlife. Who'd want to share eternity with that asshat. :p

Natasha Yar-Routh said...

I used the 'good riddance to bad trash' line as the title of my blog post on Falwell's demise. I am glad to see min gone even though I know there will be some other lying scumbag to take his place. He did his best to make life miserable for me and my queer siblings.

Queen Pickle said...

Queen Pickle, is that white, milk or dark?

*Accepts gratefully, passing on a piece of Tammy Faye's marzipan head*


I think it's milk chocolate. But it is an anatomically correct chocolate jebus, so be warned! ;)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11669242/
If that doesn't work, you can just google 'chocolate jesus new york'.

I've been waitin' for Pmomma to take a bite out of this one! (sorry...the pun was too easy!)

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Yeah, sorry... there've been too many distractions today. Too many "bad news" phone calls and e-mails. :(
But, I like my chocolate dark. ;)

Rev. BigDumbChimp said...

Smellincoffee I do believe that was Clarence Darrow and not Mark Twain. Regardless it's a fantasic quote for the situation.

smellincoffee said...

Rev. BigDumbChimp: Would you believe that I just told possummama that she didn't need to delete that comment because I figured no one would catch the mistake (as I did an hour later)?! I was reading a batch of Twain quotes last night, and one of them was misattributed to Twain. Here's another attributed to him and relevant to the situation:

"I didn't go to the funeral, but I sent a note saying I approved."

AlisonM said...

I can see why the WBC would protest his funeral. After all, he APOLOGIZED for blaming gays and lesbians for 9/11. Phelpsian code says that you NEVER apologize for blaming homosexuals for the ills of the world. Even a lame apology like Falwell's counts as a ticket to hell.

Beth said...

Jerry Falwell was a man of God. Although his method was not always perfect, his message was straight from the Bible. Those who ridicule someone who has passed are little more than common trash. The difference between Christians and atheists is the fact that Christians have moral character and compassion - atheists are morally bankrupt and dont know the meaning of the word compassion.
Dont bother repsonding to my comment - I wont be reading it.

Berlzebub said...

In response to Beth:

You said:
The difference between Christians and atheists is the fact that Christians have moral character and compassion - atheists are morally bankrupt and dont know the meaning of the word compassion.

Here's a few of the things Falwell said:
* (re: 9/11 attacks) “…throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad…I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America…I point the finger in their face and say you helped this happen.”

* (re: widespread criticism for above statement) “[I would] never blame any human being except the terrorists, and if I left that impression with gays or lesbians or anyone else, I apologize…[secularization has] created an environment which possibly has caused God to lift the veil of protection which has allowed no one to attack America on our soil since 1812.”

* (re: the Civil Rights Movement of the ’50s and ’60s) “The Civil Wrongs Movement”

* “There’s been a concerted effort to steal Christmas.”

* “Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them.”

* “Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.”

* “If you’re not a born-again Christian, you’re a failure as a human being.”

* “Textbooks are Soviet propaganda.”

* “Scientology has a terrible track record of bigotry.”

* “The idea that religion and politics don’t mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country.”

* “The argument that making contraceptives available to young people would prevent teen pregnancies is ridiculous. That’s like offering a cookbook as a cure to people who are trying to lose weight.”


Falwell is responsible for breaking up homes, attempting to force religion into our government and schools, and blaming those he doesn't like for all the ills of the world. I never spoke highly of the guy when he was alive, and I'm not going to pull my punches because he punched his ticket.

The man was hateful, spiteful, and biggoted. He just happened to know of a book written by hateful, spiteful, biggoted, and superstitious people a couple of thousand years ago. To those of us with any sensibility that is no excuse, and you sighting it as so makes you as bad as Falwell.

More than likely, Beth, you are thinking of the adage, "Don't speak ill of the dead". Why not? If their entire life was spent trying to demean others, shouldn't that be pointed out?

Oh, and I know you said to not bother responding, but, unlike you, I realize you and I aren't the only ones on the internet (or in the world). So, I thought it would only be fair that someone else who visits would read a response.

-Berlzebub

PS. Sorry P-Momma, but you know I can't let filth like this go.

Sean the Blogonaut said...

Beth

I'll respond to your comment because there ain't shit you can do about it.

I don't care if you read it, some other deluded soul might and be saved from a lifetime of misery(not likely but there's aleays hope)and intellectual servitude.

So his message was straight from the bible - that makes it okay does it. As long as the bible says its okay we can do it. How about reading you bible from start to finish, it has some interesting things to say about women and slavery.

Don't talk to me of compassion, how can you even type that sentence with out choking on the hypocracy.

Compassion goes to those who deserve it.

Start thinking for yourself instead of parroting mindless rhetoric.

-end vent-

fubarmonkey said...

In response to beth: It's kind of ironic you insist on that no one try to reply or that'd you even read it. It just highlights the reason most atheists get so upset with theists. They are not willing to reason to anyone else's opinion. It's much easier for you to spew out some dogma, jump to (very bad) generalizations, and run away before anyone can get a word in edgewise. I'm pretty sure that since you took the time to even bother posting a reply to Possummomma's post (though I'm quite sure you didn't bother reading other replies), you'll be back at least one more time to see how many people your very, very, stupid comment riled up.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Jerry Falwell was a man of God.
This is an atheist blog. God doesn't exist. Falwell was just another human who couldn't keep his bigoted mouth shut.

Although his method was not always perfect, his message was straight from the Bible.
Would you care to point me to the passage in the Bible wherein it says that feminists and homosexuals were responsible for 9/11? How about where it says, "thou shalt bilk millions of dollaras, from my flock, to build thine own university."? Or, how about, "Thou shalt have a television show that promotes hate and intolerance every Sunday!"?

Those who ridicule someone who has passed are little more than common trash.
Yeah. When Osama Bin Ladin dies, we'll be sure to come and remind you not to be trashy.

The difference between Christians and atheists is the fact that Christians have moral character and compassion - atheists are morally bankrupt and dont know the meaning of the word compassion.
Sure we do. It just doesn't have all of the conditions that you hang on compassion. As for character- if character means blindly following some asshole who preaches a doctrine of hate and intolerance, then I'll pass on character.

Dont bother repsonding to my comment - I wont be reading it.
Then why bother leaving it? Oh...that's right. You're an attention seeking narciscist. You had to come shake your finger at the big bad atheists. Be sure to pray to your God for the forgiveness of the sin of pride.

Anonymous said...

For those who haven't seen it already, check out Christopher Hitchens ripping into Falwells ghost on CNN and Fox (both clips on youtube). Beautiful stuff...

Hippernicus said...

I'm surprised Berlzebub took a quote of Falwell's about Scientology as an example of the bad things he said, 'tho.

I'd have thought that was one of his better moments. ;)

Berlzebub said...

@ Hippernicus:

If by better you mean funny, I agree. It's even funnier that he doesn't get the irony. My personal favorite though, is the one about prostitutes. That one's proof that Falwell was a closet progressive feminist. ROTFLMAO

-Berlzebub

unschooler said...

Love your blog girl but everytime I come I think I'm at Why Homeschool. Same blog theme. :)

Tonette said...

atheist in mini van,

Dropping confetti and making pretty rainbow swags sounds like a parade to me, not vandalism.

Paul said...

[silentsanta, NZ]

Have to say, I dislike almost everything about Falwell. But now that I'm no longer Christian, and I realise that these lives and the people around us are all we'll ever have, I can't really rejoice over someones passing. Not Saddam, not Falwell. Probably not even Osama.

I came across Larry Flynt's article on Falwell today, which surprised me and I found it actually quite touching:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-flynt20may20,0,2297247.story?coll=la-opinion-center

Paul said...

[silentsanta, NZ]
Fixed link above:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/
la-op-flynt20may20,0,2297247.story?
coll=la-opinion-center

Nicholas said...

I don't believe there is a heaven, but if I'm wrong, and there is, I delight in the thought that Falwell won't get in. There can be no hatred in Heaven, so he's off to the other place to take poart in Satan's eternal barbecue.